The fact that those words came out of her mouth and she didn't immediately stop and go "Oh, fuck, I'm the bad guy here" is completely insane. How cooked does your brain have to be for you to even be able to say something like that in the first place?

PRECISELY!

Israel, of all factions, should know better than anyone:

INFLICTING
A
HOLOCAUST
IS,
um, *checks notes*
BAD,
ACTUALLY.

I’m sure these ghouls don’t think the hall pass is limited to just one genocide.

The lesson in her mind and the minds of those who think like her is that Jews were victims in the Holocaust, therefore the state of Israel has an unrestricted right to do anything it wants in the name of security. It can commit systematic mass murder and terrorism against the entire population of Gaza, it can turn a blind eye when Israeli terrorists do the same in the West Bank, it can shamelessly spy on and steal technology from its closest ally, it can negotiate in bad faith. Nothing matters because the thought process begins with "Israel is in the right." Everything flows from that belief.

STOP IT YOU'RE CONFUSING THE CHILDREN

Also zionism predates nazism.

But, like, Palestinians are by definition also semites, so it's now antisemitism to criticize semites committing antisemitisim....

Like, this is fundamentally the basic plot of one most famous and watched movies of all time.

Star Wars: weak impoverished kid has his family slaughtered by the unstoppable Empire. Finds power in his faith and a "terrorist" resistance group to overcome their impossible power.

And yes. I know star wars was written as the Rebels representing the VeitCong. Almost like imperialism and genocide are on the wrong side of history.

The worst kind of Zionism.

They're a Nazi. Only difference is the flag and which group is considered superior. Literally everything else is the same.

I don't know what other jew's Jewish education looked like and what they took away from it, but clearly I somehow got a completely different message from all of it.

When I was told "Never again" it meant never again for anybody. Like we should be the first ones to decry against any genocide anywhere because it was done against us.

So seeing what the Israelis are doing to the Palestinians is so grotesque to me. They don't speak for me and yet they do these horrible things supposedly in my name.

The irony was that I did buy most of the Hasbara up until I went on Birthright (this is a fully paid trip that diaspora Jews can go to Israel to build the connection with it). When I was there my own tour guide (the person paid to propagandize us) said that they want the fighting to stop, they want to stop everyone from having their children to die pointlessly. Literally after that the spell broke. It became so easy to see the Hasbara and how it is causing problems.

Like you want the fighting to end then make it so. Stop terrorizing the Palestinians and stop the apartheid, let them reside on the land they have lived in for centuries and coexist. You only make them your enemy by grinding them beneath your boot. The land Israel is made from doesn't belong to one people, it has a rich history where all of them have descended from. Israel isn't just for the Jewish people, Muslims, Christians, and others also have claims to that land (fucking hell it's the same deity for the first three and you're all kinda just blending shit together anyways).

I feel like I didn't have some magical education that taught me differently, I guess I just took what they meant at their word and applied the concepts to the modern world (like we were fucking taught to do). For a people who pride themselves on being educated it feels like people memorized a lot of stuff and didn't actually process it or question it (again like you're fucking supposed to).

Sorry for the rant but seeing people who are fairly left leaning (US standards) become bloodthirsty ghouls the moment Palestinians are brought up like a fucking light switch has been really bothering me. I feel like I'm somehow in the wrong because everyone else has gone literally insane.

Hasbara starts from the position of Israel genociding Palestinians, and then explaining why it's actually okay because Israelis are the real victims. When you haven't been indoctrinated with this kind of propaganda your whole life it sounds kind of weird and Nazi like, but for Israelis it makes perfect sense.

For example have you ever considered that Palestinians toddlers are subhuman terrorists and Israelis are the Ubermensch? It's a very convincing argument.

It makes sense when you realize she doesn't see Palestinians as humans.

So I've heard from a few places that being neurodivergent does give you somewhat resistance from propaganda because you're already used to having to think through a bunch of shit without being able to rely on group think, etc.

But also, basic fucking empathy does kind of kick in really hard. The propaganda isn't even that good besides, it's just a bunch of idiots saying "NO THE DEAD CHILDREN WERE EVIL".

I'm no marvelhead but Captain America nailed it:

"I don't like bullies. I don't care where they're from."