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[-] entwine@programming.dev 10 points 2 days ago

Why can't they just intercept the boats and arrest the people on board if they truly have evidence of smuggling? It's cheaper in the short term than wasting expensive missiles, and much cheaper in the long term when you factor in the reparations we're going to have to pay to the families of all the people that were murdered.

[-] tinfoilhat@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago

Trump is trying to escalate tension with Venezuela to instigate them to attack us. Then he can rule that we can't have another election during a war.

[-] TheTwelveYearOld@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Expecting them to pay reparations is very optimistic.

[-] pacology@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Because that doesn’t make you feel like a couch badass warrior. Duh.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

Terrorist attacks*

[-] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 28 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Extrajudicial murders using the same paltry level of evidence as most ICE operations. The word MURDER is the essential word.

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[-] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago
[-] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago

Huh, it rippled backwards in time, too

[-] Bwaz@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago

They can tell how many they killed, but no actual eviidence of drugs in the wreckage while counting bodies??

[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 17 points 2 days ago

That's the neat part! They can't! No one is counting bodies in person, this is all remote us murder, as is tradition.

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[-] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

IR cameras are good at counting bodies.

[-] Furbag@lemmy.world 46 points 3 days ago

If they claim they know that these boats have drugs on them, they could just apprehend them when they made port.

But then they would have to actually find said drugs to use as evidence to prosecute them.

This is just extrajudicial murder, plain and simple. I hope Trump and everyone who is involved with this dies an excruciatingly painful death.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

If they claim they know that these boats have drugs on them, they could just apprehend them when they made port

That would require due process, instead of a spectacle of Shock and Awe.

Also, let's say, hypothetically that these aren't drug boats. Let's say they are boats moving medical supplies or fuel or building materials between Venezuela and Cuba. Let's say they're actually military units working on behalf of the Venezuelan Coast Guard or just fisherman who got caught in an international crossfire.

It's just easier to say "Drug Gang. Killed them." knowing no major American media source is going to publish a rebuttal. Nobody in the US has access to the details of the attack. Nobody is going to interview the families or investigate the wreckage. Nobody is going to contradict this regime when it comes to butchering citizens of the Global South.

So why not call them a drug gang? Call them human traffickers. Call them roving nautical pedophiles. Call them Islamic Jihad.

American audiences won't hear anything different.

[-] Blumpkinhead@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

Imagine if they' were actually human traffickers, and these assholes have been blowing up the victims as well.

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[-] x00z@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

But then they would have to actually find said drugs to use as evidence to prosecute them.

It's not like those can't be planted. They're already killing civilians of another country, there's no bottom in their games.

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 26 points 3 days ago

It's insane that they aren't, at worst, intercepting and searching these vessels. As with everything Trump does, cruelty is the point.

This man is a convicted felon that is sloppily trying to cover up the fact he sexually abused children (Epstein Files), along with the full support of the republican party. And the GOP (politicians and voters alike) are complicit with these crimes as long as they agree he should not be punished.

We, the sane people in this world, will never forget these facts.

[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 136 points 3 days ago
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It's murder for political optics plain and simple.

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[-] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 108 points 3 days ago
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[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

The USA stooping to a new and shitty level of low.

[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Can you feel it? This is how all great democracies are born! Just a few more dead, Venezuela, and we'll bring you democracy! Prepare your parades and ribbons and floats!

[-] Njos2SQEZtPVRhH@piefed.social 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Not recognizing ICC, regime change, illegal killing of foreign civilians, supporting genocidal regimes, invading other countries, carpet bombing nations, incarcerating their own population, killing eachother in mass shootings, biggest per capita contribution to climate change.

American exceptionalism isn't doing us any good.

But ooh nooo China, please Europe, fear China... We are your 'allies'.

[-] SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 48 points 3 days ago

Tell me again, lemmy, why Kamala is satanspawn and would've been worse for everyone.

Go on, you stupid fucks. Tell those murder victims in Venezuela, and their families.

why Kamala is satanspawn and would've been worse for everyone

Nobody said this. Kamala lost not because "Lemmy purists are dumb", but because she ran an unelectable campaign. If the Democrats had run a progressive candidate they may have had a chance, just look at the Mamdani avalanche. Besides, wasn't it Democrats themselves who pushed for this with the pied piper strategy of radicalizing the republicans towards fascism to "make them less electable"?

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 22 hours ago

How dare you use facts from reality against their circle jerk!

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago

Nice straw man. You mad not everyone was sucking Joe bidens balls with a big enough smile? For not staying quiet and asking for nothing in exchange for my vote like a good boy?

kamala is not worse then trump. While im sure these people exist (hit me up with your sources), this was not why people were upset with the democratic party.

We just want to not be disenfranchised. Is it so hard for the self described defenders of Democracy to allow the voters to have more then two choices in the voting booth in blue states?

How about just having a presidential primary? Is that bar low enough for the blue conservatives to waddle over? Uhoh, im asking for representation! PURITY TEST! PERFECT ENEMY OF GOOD! what a joke of a nation when the "good guys" seek to silence their own voters with rhetoric.

Democrats strangled democracy every election cycle they didn't make replacing First-past-the-post voting a priority in the states they control. The republicans just delivered the knockout blow. Good job sacrificing the nation so democrats could have safe states and easy elections against the worst of us all.

Democracy is not "vote for my preference or else". I would never seek to force you to vote how I want to vote. Yet you continue to do so, even after the most humiliating defeats the democrats have delivered us.

Time to lose your monopoly on resisting the republicans blue MAGA. Not that you ever deserved it. The worst allies anyone could hope for. More like an abusive relationship.

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[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

"Vote for me or I'll shame and guilt you" is the tactic Republicans use, and now Democrats use it too and claim to be the good guy.

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 22 points 3 days ago

So Obama didn't drone strike weddings? Stop this partisan polar bullshit, this is a problem with the country.

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[-] theoneandonlyeggboi@lemmings.world 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Useful idiots wouldn't be upset if Kamala won because they don't care about the working class.

Literally nobody is saying Kamala would be worse. We're telling the 'stupid fucks' that 'falling in line' is a losing strategy and they should stop relying on it to combat fascism.

Instead of getting mad at the people who didn't fall in line because Kamala is an establishment candidate, you should be getting mad at those who nominated her in the first place. But you're too naive to do that, so here we are.

The two-pronged strategy works because of people like you. I don't expect you to learn, ever.

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[-] rafoix@lemmy.zip 55 points 3 days ago

Everyone involved should be extradited to those countries affected and face justice.

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