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[-] Darkcoffee@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I'd say it's more of a 'de facto' monopoly, as every other storefront sucks so bad.

It's ironic that Valve doesn't have shareholders forcing horrible decisions that make people hate a platform to maximize short term profits, yet they reap in crazy amounts of money per year in comparison to public companies with dogshit monetization. Funny how that goes huh?

[-] Defectus@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Usually steam is mostly praised for being a decent company. But what are the devs saying about the 30% cut. Do they think it's reasonable or is there any discontent among the devs?

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[-] HailSeitan@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

The number of people in this thread claiming that Steam is not a monopoly is too damn high. If actually you’re interested in the evidence, the Organized Money podcast recently had a great interview with pair of lawyers whose full time job is suing Valve as a monopolist on antitrust grounds, and winning over and over on behalf of their clients.

[-] domi@lemmy.secnd.me 4 points 3 days ago

Where is that evidence? (That is not a podcast with one of the involved parties in it)

I quickly looked into it and there is zero public indication that Bucher Law PLLC ever won a single lawsuit against Valve. One lawsuit of Valve against Bucher Law PLLC (in response to their arbitrations) was dismissed.

https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/10620119/valve-corporation-v-bucher-law-pllc-et-ano/

The only thing they do is file arbitrations, which they are apparently "winning" but they did not provide any further proof of that.

All the "grand victories" are celebrated exclusively on their own website. Mostly you find people on Reddit claiming that they are a scam and a really weird Youtube commercial.

They also claim multiple times that Federal Judge John C. Coughenour ruled that Valve is an "illegal monopoloy". Which I cannot find any records for. Unrelated to Bucher Law, Coughenour was the judge in Wolfire vs Valve and he threw Wolfire's case against Valve out in 2021 but allowed them to proceed in 2022. Coughenour then resigned from the case.

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/59859024/wolfire-games-llc-v-valve-corporation/

The case is now a class action lawsuit against Valve and still ongoing.

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[-] BCOVertigo@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

This study is just asking managers, they didn't talk to devs. Also how is it a monopoly when 80% expect to be using non steam distribution channels in 5 years? Maybe I'm missing something because the source study isn't available without giving them your name and email but their stats look contradictory to me and their method is... Well corporate managers aren't really devs IMO.

https://rokky.com/pc-game-distribution-report-2025

[-] onlooker@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 days ago

72% of devs have no clue what the word monopoly means. That would mean that Steam is the only store selling PC games on the market, but that's not the case. Hell, the article itself mentions several:

However, it also noted that developers have started utilising other platforms including the Epic Game Store and the Xbox PC Games store.

Almost half of those surveyed (48%) have distributed a title to both stores, while 10% have used GOG and 8% have used Itch.io.

So, a monopoly? Most definitely not. A market leader or holder of a vast majority? Yes.

[-] bl4kers@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 days ago

That's not what that word means. Zero competition is virtually impossible unless government is strongly enforcing it

[-] HailSeitan@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Do you also think Google isn’t a search monopoly because Bing exists? This is a very bad argument that completely ignores market power.

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