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I have seen a few of these with similar story lines and realized we are living it right now. They have the best healthcare, the best food, the best everything and most of us are a few dollars from disaster. That scares some of us to death literally from all the stress it causes.

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[-] antlion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 148 points 1 year ago

Elysium!

You’re not wrong. And anybody who could afford to stop them is too busy fighting a culture war to organize. Who do you think is stoking animosity? MLKJ wasn’t assassinated for civil rights, it was for the Poor Peoples Campaign. The only thing that could stop them is the unity of all those living paycheck to paycheck, regardless of religion or race.

[-] penquin@lemm.ee 48 points 1 year ago

I feel like a movement is actually happening, but slowly. Look at all these unions forming and people striking all around. It gives me hope, to be honest. The media is fighting it hard and somewhat succeeding, but just to an extent. We will win

[-] MargotRobbie@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago

That sounds like a pretty terrible dystopian movie that should not be made into real life.

So, please, support the WGA and SAG-AFTRA strikes. Hopefully there will be some good news soon.

[-] chepox@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago
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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 17 points 1 year ago

Just get your negligent employer to irradiate you and give you cancer, making you a man with nothing to lose and then go up there and get your cure while toppling the status quo. Easy.

[-] eu@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

Just give me a cool robotic exoskeleton and I'm sold

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[-] monotremata@kbin.social 112 points 1 year ago

Good sci fi usually isn't about the future, aliens, etc. It's about the present, but portrayed in a strange way so as to bypass your existing preconceptions about the situation, so you can look at it with fresh eyes.

[-] Hyperreality@kbin.social 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It also makes it 'safe' to discuss controversial topics, because it's 'only scifi' (or horror/fantasy).

Allows creators and authors to fly under the radar with stuff that could potentially get you arrested, censored, cause controversy or end your career. Prime example, Tarkovski movies like Solaris or Stalker, which are full of religious metaphors, despite being released in the USSR.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago

All I know is the second the very second that we are sure they're starting to build the cloud cities, we need to start murdering people. You can't let him finish the cloud cities. Cannot happen. The second construction starts we start cutting off heads. That's our only chance.

[-] TwoGems@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Stopping things now would be easier than the future. In the future they'll perfect the killer dog robots etc. and things will get harder.

[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago

Mass surveillance is more powerful than killer dog robots and they already have it.The idea of solving our problems by mass murdering rich people was always stupid, but it's already too late for that anyway.

[-] SynopticVision@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

We should start cutting off heads right now tbh

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[-] Huschke@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago

They're not building a cloud city though. They are trying to get away with rockets and space ships.

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[-] hamid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 1 year ago

It is almost like Elysium was a metaphor for something

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That's unpossible

[-] RanchOnPancakes@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago
[-] ayaya@lemdro.id 25 points 1 year ago

There is water at the bottom of the ocean

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[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 year ago

"Cyberpunk was a warning, not an aspiration," == Mike Pondsmith (creator of the Cyberpunk TTRPG)

[-] randon31415@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

People working 40 hours to make 10 things. Technology improves so that one person can make 20 things in 40 hours. People now get paid twice as much? People now only work 20 hours? Nope! Half as many people now work at the same pay. The rest have to go find something else to do.

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[-] electrogamerman@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

It surprises me how many people dont realize that most rich people are rich because of poor people.

Stop change your phone each year, stop buying brand clothes, stop going to movie and music concerts. Start buying clothes by your local people, support new artists.

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Well on the plus side cardboard drones laden with explosives are cheaper than ever. /s

[-] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

That /s is doin some heavy lifting

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

It wouldn't fly without the lift.

[-] jBlight@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

I feel like we're actually the prequel to WALL-E

[-] Yeldarb12@toast.ooo 19 points 1 year ago

You should check out the movie Elysium.

[-] PraiseTheSoup@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

I knew this reminded me of a movie, just couldn't remember the name. Thanks.

[-] zzzzz@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago

Have you read/watched Alita: Battle Angel? That's the situation there.

[-] snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

This is one of them. yes.

[-] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

It has never been any different. It's worse and exponentially more visible, but is not new by any means.

[-] OpenStars@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

Every capitalist society trends towards this, as too do all other forms of society as well. Also remember that in the Western world, even someone who is next to outright homeless can have a better life than something like 90% of people around the globe - the water from most streams is safe to drink (unlike many places in Africa and South America), there are currently no missiles raining down from the sky (unlike Ukraine), if you have friends or family that you can stay with there is a good chance that someone can make room for you (unlike super crowded places where there are already ~20 families in a small household - and at the risk of repeating myself, yes I meant families there, not just people), plus with a mere handful of dollars we can get treatments for diseases that even Kings and Pharos of the past who were considered to be literal gods could not.

So it is a spectrum where we are not as well off as we used to be a few decades ago, but are still doing well globally speaking. The problem is that we are changing, so not yet used to there being such rigid divisions between "classes" of people as now exist, so people still talk as if mere hard work is all that is required to deal with it. And they aren't even fully wrong, bc that really is a part of it, though there is a significantly higher uphill battle than there used to be.

Just do your best - what else could you possibly do even? - and also remember that kinder people are happier people, and that is literally something that no amount of money can buy:-D.

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

No, we still have a chance.

We could stage a revolution, overthrow the oligarchs and restart with whatever we want.

But it ain't gonna happen.

[-] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

The problem: human nature is such that those who overthrew the tyrants would shortly find themselves in power. They might even be just and true leaders. But inevitably, greed will out. I suppose the silver lining is the resulting system of oppression might not be so... efficient as it is now.

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[-] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

This won't last for long. This capitalist with corporate socialism system has a short life span eventually what happens is inflation moves the poverty line far up enough that it collapses. Right now people are struggling to purchase just groceries compared to just last year. Either regulation or wages move up.

[-] Facelesscog@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

There was a point, around the end of the Gold Rush and the beginning of the Industrial Revolution, when they were still building that floating city, that the common man could work his way up and get on it. Unfortunately, as time has passed and conditions have changed, the floating city is now all but completely out of our reach.

[-] redy_velvet@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Well yes, those stories are often written as critiques/analysis of real world culture

[-] mx_smith@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Well they have been buying up the Hawaiian islands. I think Larry Ellis, Zuckerberg and few others have bought a ton of property on Lanai or Molokai.

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[-] yool_ooloo@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Children of Men always struck me this way

[-] Pottsunami@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Isn't this the plot to elysium?

In all seriousness, its not impossible to go from the bottom to the top, but its definitely improbable. Anyone can do middle class. Just do middle class.

If you really want to go wild, sacrifice your pleasantries in order to save a bit and give it to your child a chance. Ill give you an example.

Jeff Bezos mother Jackie and father Tim when were 16 and 18 respectively when she was pregnant with Jeff. Jeffs first dad was a drunk asshole and they got divored. She met a Cuban Refugee named Miguel Bezos, who adopted Jeff. Jeff went and got himself into Princeton, where he graduated and started working for a financial tech company.

Now Miguel got his degree and was working for exxon. Thats how he was able to save up the $254k that he and Jackie loaned to Jeff. With that, he made an online bookstore called amazon.com. From there Jeff became the multi billionaire he is now. Oh, Jackie and Miguel got 6% each so they're billionaires too.

Now that's the American Dream. Even so, I think the question is, how rich is too rich?

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

I had a teacher who won the lotto. I don't take investment advice from her.

The odds of winning the lotto are better than being a billionaire off a business plan.

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[-] Nytelock@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

We need Alita battle Angel

[-] hth@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

If you are young, they would trade a lot for the years you have left to live. Also, time value of money and all that. It's hard to fathom how powerful compounding is. Start investing small, start investing early.

[-] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

Folks aren't even able to get out of debt. Considering debt generally has a higher interest rate than savings, folks are even held back from saving. OP even mentioned that straight out. If you're a disaster away from destitution, you aren't investing money. Money years from now isn't worth more than money today when your bills are due today.

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