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[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago

Locking. The comment section is a perfect summary of why so many people don't want to be associated with Linux users. I should've removed the post outright because it is inflammatory, reactionary, and invites toxicity -- evidenced by the fact that the downvotes on dissenting comments are largely made by the same users. I wonder if a pattern might emerge.

There is a discussion to be had about the topic... but it went to exchanging insults and downvoting out of disagreement.

[-] Cevilia 111 points 3 days ago

Easily the worst part of the Linux experience is its community.

[-] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 22 points 3 days ago

The Linux community is just a bunch of nerds with superiority complex.

I use Arch btw.

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[-] WraithGear@lemmy.world 42 points 3 days ago

the largest barrier to linux is its user base

[-] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 3 days ago

Dont interact with it then. There are manuals.

[-] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 34 points 3 days ago

Replying to that with an "RTFM" response has to be some kind of meta-joke.

[-] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 3 days ago

It was meant to be, seems people were unhappy with it 😅

[-] Ofiuco@piefed.ca 7 points 3 days ago

Outdated and poorly written so a normal user can't do shit, but yeah, there are manuals and documentation.

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[-] Professorozone@lemmy.world 81 points 3 days ago

And that's why they don't switch to Linux.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 50 points 3 days ago

I'm talking about after they refuse to help themselves. They want their learned helplessness and Microsoft stockholm syndrome validated, and fuck that!

[-] Professorozone@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

Ok, but my point is that, if you want them to switch to Linux and because you like it and seem to hate Windows, I think that's a reasonable assumption, treating them poorly will not make that better for anyone. They won't want to put forth the effort and as a primarily Windows user and having tried Linux on many occasions, I can say it can be a daunting task especially when you need to use the command line. In the past I can honestly say that I have had a lot of help from very knowledgeable and friendly Linux users. But please don't deny that Linux users aren't just a little bit elitist.

In fact I can already picture the current Linux community complaining about the state of Linux if it were to skyrocket in popularity. Suddenly it would be like, all these stupid Windows users coming to Linux, ruining the experience. Companies trying to profit off of it. I liked it better when it was a small community.

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[-] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 14 points 3 days ago

Yeah, this kind of stuff makes me not want to admit to using Linux in public. Let’s not mistake hating Windows for a personality.

[-] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 days ago

I don't switch to linux because I need to use "breakout rooms" in Teams on a daily basis and they disabled that for linux.

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[-] Azzu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 3 days ago

No one deserves to be treated like that. The fact that there are people that righteously believe people deserve to be treated like that is part of our problems as a society.

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[-] Jaybird@lemmy.world 42 points 3 days ago

As a European IT admin:

Everyone in HR, finance, sales, management can all be moved to Linux. They all use webinterfaces for all of their work.

Software development, no windows specific software.

Even marketing / image creation... More and more software is ready or available for Linux.

Ignoring this very real option for most of your people is indeed silly these days.

Hell it might be worth having a central windows VM that people can rdp into for that one old windows app.

[-] Honytawk@feddit.nl 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Fun for you, but certainly not possible for your average company.

HR, finance, sales, management only webinterface they use is Sharepoint. All the rest is done on proprietary software and Excel.

Software development have been creating Access programs because they need to work with some old IBM server. We'd not only have to replace that hardware, we would also have to replace the experts and hire ones with knowledge about the new languages to be used, and convert everything on the servers of course..

Marketing is maybe the easiest, but they will need to get used to new software.

And all of the users will need to follow training to use Linux.

Users complain when a button moves a centimeter, they will definitely complain when their entire OS changes.

So no, it is easier to rebuild an entire company than it is to switch the environment.

[-] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 3 days ago

Something tells me that if a city can do it in 2004, so could a company with all the improvements in 2025. And as with the city, the biggest issue will be the management being idiots (corruption) and/or underfunding the IT.

If a company has to treat their employees like delicate flowers who can't deal with a slightly different interface it's not the issue with software, but the companies' training program / policies and unwillingness to invest in them. And it's not like investments in FOSS IT and your employees wouldn't pay off, all those proprietary licenses are expensive as hell. See link, the city saved money despite even having to develop whole new tools, acquire licenses and whatnot. Lots of small stuff not necessary today anymore.

Not saying it wouldn't be a complicated endeavour, but certainly not impossible and definitely one that pays off.

[-] Jaybird@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

I see, so quite an old company then. (Access, IBM server and sharepoint, etc) Not something a newer company would be using.

I can see you would be stuck with that older tech debt. And finding people for that old stuff is harder then finding people that want to use the new stuff.

Teaching people to use Linux? I mean, not much difference between windows and KDE anymore? Just need to know how to log in, and start their software?

In the end, if your company is not able to move and change to a new world / user demands...

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[-] Blubber28@lemmy.world 41 points 3 days ago

There are perfectly valid reasons not to switch to Linux. Many people could switch, which is why encouraging switching is fine, but when the entire work environment is in Windows, or they need specific software that does not work properly (or at all) on Linux, fully switching is not an option. I love me a "Windows Bad, Linux Good" meme, don't get me wrong, but that is a meme at the end of the day. Reality is often much more nuanced, and this is no exception.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

How many valid reasons are there not to switch and then continue to whine about Windows while still expecting sympathy?

This isn't a "Windows bad, Linux good" meme. This is a meme fighting back at the other thread's assertion that being less than sympathetic and accepting of their toxic learned helplessness -- while they continue to support companies that attack our rights, BTW -- somehow makes us the bad guys.

[-] prettybunnys@piefed.social 11 points 3 days ago

Someone made a tongue in cheek meme pointing out the obnoxious mentality of the “just use Linux” crowd and your response was to double down and prove their point.

Classic

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[-] msage@programming.dev 11 points 3 days ago

How many people have such work envs?

I hate that people (not you) keep saying "Linux is for tech people only" and "My workflow is super Windows specific".

Like is both are true, fine, but that must be like 0.1% of users.

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 23 points 3 days ago

A lot. Like, a lot.

Have you ever worked corporate

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[-] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 13 points 3 days ago

Anyone dependent on Adobe suite.

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[-] carotte 7 points 3 days ago

anyone who needs microsoft office. or the adobe suite. or visual studio. or autoCAD. or…

there’s a lot of professional creation software that’s not on linux. and yes, we have alternatives, and they’re cool, but they don’t work for everyone.

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[-] kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 3 days ago

This is one of those situations where "both sides are bad" actually holds weight.

Yes, Linux communities are full of insufferable shitheads who have way too much emotional investment in what is essentially a tool. I onced looked up some information on Youtube about flatpacks to educated myself and ended up watching some moron have a 20 minute meltdown about how they're "soy and unmanly". As a Linux user, that is fucking embarassing.

Hardline Windows users are shitheads in their own right, too. If something isn't handed to them or requires effort beyond dragging and droppping files, it's proper shit and you're just an out-of-touch nerd for trying to mainstream this esoteric nonsense. It's a thought-terminating cliche about Linux and its users that's about 25 years out of date. I don't know shit about the terminal, BASH, or what the fuck a GRUB is but I've been using Linux Mint for two years now with zero issues. Yes, even when running games.

[-] ISolox@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago

Ah yes let's be dicks. That's how you can get people to switch over.

[-] blinfabian@feddit.nl 36 points 3 days ago

how hard is it to like linuz and not be an asshole?😮😮

[-] Theoriginalthon@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

Unfortunately asking people to learn anything makes you look like an asshole. If you make someone think when they don't want to? Asshole.

[-] Azzu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 3 days ago

Unsolicited advice is asshole-behavior, like it or not.

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[-] Kushan@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

This meme isn't asking people to learn anything, it's just shitting on windows users.

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[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 9 points 3 days ago

No it turns out that just being an arsehole makes you an arsehole

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[-] carotte 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

do you ever stop to think about it sometimes?

how worked up you are because people use an operating system you don’t like. imagine doing that with other things.

"ugh this shirt is kinda itchy" "well that’s your own damn fault for using this bad shirt!!! next time switch to a better shirt you useless fuck!"

[-] emeralddawn45@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 3 days ago

I mean if that person kept wearing that shirt every fucking day and complaining about it every time, i probably would eventually say that. Like its not that complicated.

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[-] sucius@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

I don't much care what people use but to me it feels more like:

"ugh, this shirt is taking photos of my nipples and publishing them for everyone to see and I had to consent to even be able to put it on after having paid for it, also as of late, it's started making me watch ads in order to wash it and wants me to talk to an IA and train it or it'll shock me."

Obviously people are going to tell you to use something else.

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[-] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 3 days ago

Brb, going to get fired for installing Linux on all the work computers.

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[-] nek0d3r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 3 days ago

The shift to Linux is a tough one, and it just cannot happen all at once. The longer you spend in a workflow, the longer it takes to change it. If we offer our support and kindness to people when they struggle with Windows, it lends more credibility when we recommend Linux. Plus, I'm not really going to complain about another opportunity to call out when Microsoft does more dumb shit.

[-] kittenzrulz123 18 points 3 days ago

Damn, this is pure bullshit

[-] judgyweevil@feddit.it 13 points 3 days ago

What a stupid meme

[-] Dogyote@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 days ago

This right here is why you don't have a romantic partner

[-] Gonzako@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

I'd treat my boss like that but I still need a job

[-] khar21@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 days ago

I know people that complain about windows, but if they were to switch to Linux, their experience would deteriorate even further. I can't get COD blackops 3 to not crash the amdgpu kernel driver.

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