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We need to, fuck the us
I just realized that McCain is a Canadian company. Sorry, I've been boycotting their fries and stuff for the past few months, but it was a mistake - damn you, John McCain!
The McCains still have their list of problems, much like other large Corporations and billionaires, but they are Canadian.
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Now reinstate that fucking Digital Services Tax !
Or, as was originally planned, Negotiate a global minimum tax with the EU and other major markets. Then better yet, remove DRM anti-circumvention legislation. That way Canadian companies can openly jailbreak our phones and offer alternative app stores on the devices we own -with no American middleman taking a third of the money we spend.
anyone can install f-droid. also jailbreaking isn't up to Canadian companies, its up to the device manufacture allowing it and providing warranty for it (which they wont). If you want a phone like that, your best bet is buying a linux phone that is open out of the box, but no companies are canadian that produce it.
anyone can install f-droid
For now. Google is making sure this not an option in the near future
Sure, just announce we are doubling exports. Anyone else noticing how Carney says stuff without any real detail on how he plans to do it? The CDN government has thousands of people for decades trying to increase exports abroad. We have little manufacturing left to export, so we're turned into a mining based economy.
I'm pretty tired of politicians selling old ideas as new. We need some innovation.
I mean at the least it looks like we're taking some steps to avoid the clusterfuck that the USMCA resigning is likely to be by getting ahead of it.
Its not hard to double exports to other countries when your main trading partner (US) stops taking your stuff. Talking out of my ass, but it seems like doubling exports to other countries wouldn't be that hard when we wind up having a surplus because US trade dries up. Seems like it'd push prices of our goods lower and hurt Canadians, which is what he seems to be implying to me.
So, you are saying we sold all our possible exports to only the US?
Why should Europe import our lumber?
Carney is softening us up to the reality that tariffs will last as long as the US wants them to, and there is fuck all he can do about it.
Canada-indonesia free trade agreement: https://globalnews.ca/news/11449417/canada-indonesia-trade-agreement/
Canada-mexico trade agreement without USA: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwy8r042nx2o
And we had new trade agreements with Europe under Biden.
There is nothing really new here.
The Indonesia agreement is great for Indonesia, but puts Canada in $600M trade deficits.
Both deals are a few percent of US trade.
Both deals are a few percent of US trade.
Every bit counts. I would like to see a future where we aren't doing any business with the US.
The US is eating it's own head and will probably fail in the near future. We need to be ready for that.
It’s true, i didn’t actually read the agreement.
As for the trade deficit, I’m not sure it matters to a great extent. When a rich country tades with a poorer country it is normal for the rich country to be able to afford more imports than the poorer country. However, the trade deal can still benefit the country with the trade deficit. Our raw materials and goods will still find new markets because they will be more affordable to indonesians, and canadian consumers will have indonesian goodss for cheaper. we have a relative advantage for certain high tech and biomedical stuff, so we might see job growth in areas that we are already strong in. I don’t care if my cheap manufactured goods are made abroad as long as other jobs are created. Alan Greenspan had an interesting take on trade deficits: i don’t have time to find the quote, but it is along the lines of “we give them dollars and they give us actual real-world goods - seems like a good deal.” Trade is not a zero sum game - it can provide an advantage to both sides, even when one side benefits more.
As for the deals being small compared to the us: there are no american-sized economies hidden under a rug or something. Carney can’t just make a new trading partner out of thin air. replacing US trade is a huge undertaking that will still be going when my children are dead of old age. Carney will not live long enough to fix everything, but it is wrong to say that he has done nothing.
The details of how it gets accomplished are being released in early November with the budget.
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If we fail in implememting old ideas how are we going to succeed in innovation?
This is a fair criticism. Canada needs investment. Path to actual export growth is investment from countries who would want to import from Canada, or investment that allows Canadians to invest to refine/value add to other investments. For an export strategy to work, we need to stop being on the wrong side of geopolitical hate, and be welcoming of investments from the part of the world that is growing, and can grow if free of US extortion.
I'll believe it when I see it - Carney doesn't seem to actually have done anything so far.
He signed a big trade and defense pact with indonesia and a bilateral trade agreement with mexico, partially cutting the us out of north american trade. he’s only been pm for, like, 8 months.
Did you actually read the agreement? It leaves Canada in $600M trade deficit. Media loves to skip the details.
Judging trade deals purely on money in vs. money out is Trump thinking.
Can you explain what a trade deficit is and why it's bad?
He doesn't know like Trump doesn't know.
Are you going to demand that you get out of the trade deficit you have with your grocer of choice?
Why not? Are you to afraid that capitalism would then be replaced with communism? It is important that you understand what Trump is talking about before you echo him.
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Not only has he signed multiple trade agreements, but the trade data is showing a solid shift way from the US to other countries already -despite the fact that most industry works on contracts that are longer than 8 months. The fact that it's already moving is impressive. https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/features/2025/canada-international-trade/
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You seriously think this kind of thing happens overnight?
Carney is very bad at communicating and informing Canadians. He likes to keep everything private until there are results to publish. It keeps me worried that he's accomplishing nothing and my confidence in his abilities is very low considering how he's folded all the hands we actually held.
That’s great but can you reduce our US exports?
Trump is handling that part, it's the reason we need to increase our non-US exports
We need to increase our non-US exports because the US is our enemy. Not because they are limiting it.
Let’s just do business with non asshole countries only.
This is major progress.
But to get US to beg for economic ties with Canada, we must break military/geopolitical sycophancy ties. Charge a high price for NORAD, Helping the US in a pretenseless war on Venezuela should have a publicly high $ figure as compensation for our evil. Pure evil in Latin America and elsewhere, is something we've officially always supported. Iraq the only exception. Supporting pretenseless wars and coups in Latin America is supporting the same (lack of) principled war on Canada, including fentanyl pretenses.
His speech is promising, but to open Canadian trade, we need to stop pretending that the US controlled world is the free world. While our Ukrainian diaspora has a one sided political criteria, even if they are descendants of nazi war criminals fleeing prosecution for their war crimes, siding with geopolitical lies just gets their country destroyed to the last Ukrainian, and peace with Russia is far more important to defense against the US.
This is a return to the election night speech. The journey has been extremely ugly and unproductive. This is a commitment to saving Canada, but it has to be followed through aggressively with certainty, no matter how polite/diplomatic the language has to remain towards the US.
Ukrainian diaspora has a one sided political criteria, even if they are descendants of nazi war criminals fleeing prosecution for their war crimes
You know there were Ukrainians in Canada long before WWII right? Or were they communist then ? 🙄
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