Anyone else noticed a rise in right wing/troll accounts on Lemmy recently?

You: "Calling people klansmen just because you don't like their beliefs or opinions belittles what blacks went through. Racist? Sure, but don't change history"

Guy in a Klan hood beside you: "yeah what he said"

This is a lot of text for the distinction between Nazi and neo Nazi. Neo Nazis commit atrocities, murders within their limited capabilities. They are (on some level) the same.

"I do have a Nazi streak"

• Paul Ingrassia

I agree with all the other comments in this thread. And I would also add that Republicans modus operandi is closer to to German nazis than Italian fascists.

Fascists used violence, an open coup and support from the existing monarchy and government to gain control. Nazis tried the same thing first and failed miserably so next they ran elections and slowly subverted parliamentary democracy to gain the same control. Once they had enough support in parliament they ramped up the violence of the SA militias (equivalent to ICE) to gain a majority and be uncontested.

Ah, sorry, our mistake.

Neo-nazi. Is that better?

Did all "nazis" actively do crimes against humanity? Whats the bar they have to hit to be a nazi? Put on a uniform? shoot a roma? say non-aryans are sub human? You want to draw a bright line between national socialists and racists, I'm not going to stop you, but I think nazi is just short hand for bootlicking people who enable the dehumanizing of others at this point in time.

What word would you prefer?

Well, you're a fucking idiot.

Nazi was a derogatory term used against the national socialist party but was eventually embraced in defiance. Let's not change history and make nazi some kind of honored title.

I suppose you believe the Democratic Peoples Republic of North Korea is democratic too.

It doesn’t matter if you put your ding in the dong, the damage you cause is the same.

And I feel like anyone making arguments like this has already assaulted and thinks something like “ehh wasn’t rapping so can’t be too bad, no?” while being a human disgrace…

Go home, grammar Nazi, your ignorance of how linguistic usage determines meaning is showing

Shut the fuck up.

I think you're getting the downvotes (and I think I saw a few others mention this) because your argument is rooted in the word keeping the exact definition it was historically created in.

People who 'simp' for China are not 'Mao apologists' but that'd be a fine enough term for me to understand exactly who, in the modern day, is being insulted.

In similar fashion, no, existing fascists in the republican party are not literally National Socialist German Workers' Party members, but they DO have a lot of similarities to the values and actions we have distilled down over the last 80 years that we attribute to 'Nazis'.

So, no, they're not Nazis, but to call them such isn't to 'change history...' as you put it, and is instead a means of identifying extreme and harmful beliefs with an existing, demonized (for good reason) label to accent the severity of their beliefs as they compare to modern sensibilities related to freedom.

They downvoted you because you became a Dictionary Nazi, the Grammar Nazi's even less-liked younger brother

Where does the meaning come from? God? Are we in a video game where someone programmed words to have specific meaning? I never understood where the root authority comes from. Many people are using Nazi to describe fascists but if you can't derive meaning from how people use words... where does the authority come from?

prescriptivists are lingual nazis

Language evolves. Many words have roots in other words with similar meanings.
The word Nazi has evolved to describe people who in a group together think they are better as the rest and deserve to punish them for existing since a long time ago.