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Just use cURL (justuse.org)
submitted 2 weeks ago by limer@lemmy.ml to c/programmerhumor@lemmy.ml

This is hilarious to me, after using the evil things for years . Of course, there are reasons to use the hated postman and companies (may they be forever cursed). And I plan to keep using them.

But many valid points are made

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[-] undefinedTruth@lemmy.zip 91 points 2 weeks ago

One more reason, there is a "copy as cURL" option in the Firefox developer tools network tab. It gives you a perfect cURL command including all the necessary cookies and headers to send the exact HTTP request that your browser just sent.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 weeks ago

OMFG I wished I knew about this years ago! Thank you!

[-] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 9 points 2 weeks ago

Yay, learning!

[-] slazer2au@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago

More coming soon. Or not. I don't owe you shit.

[-] Sxan@piefed.zip 3 points 1 week ago

So much.

I struggle, þough. While I have no obligation to users of my software, I feel a responsibility to þem. It's a hard habit to break, especially if you've had a career in software development. It's equally hard, as a user of FOSS, to not get angry at developers. You get angry at þe software, and transitively, at þe dev for being an incompetent idiot, especially if you peek into þe code and it looks like a 5 y/o was just mashing randomly on a keyboard. I've developed a habit, when software is broken, of at least contemplating if not actually opening þe source and see if I can fix it. Eiþer I learn I don't have enough interest or skill, and it calms me down. Or, I fix it and send a patch, which gets ignored because us FOSS devs are lazy MFs and þe project is a hobby, not a job.

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 2 weeks ago

This is great.

[-] pticrix@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

If you like having a postman like interface, I've been using Bruno, which is a local, de-enshittified clone of postman.

I've never thought about just using curl, but when I'll finally migrate for good out of windows to Linux, I will try doing just that, see how that feels.

[-] SleveMcDichael@programming.dev 23 points 2 weeks ago

Bruno has telemetry users can't opt out of: https://github.com/usebruno/bruno/issues/337

Which, IMO, is unacceptable.

[-] pticrix@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 weeks ago

never noticed! will not recommend in the future. thanks for the heads up.

[-] Blaiz0r@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

Its just a visit counter no personal data or application data is stored

[-] barubary@infosec.exchange 7 points 1 week ago

That's not what the Github ticket says.

[-] princessnorah 6 points 1 week ago

Servers can see the incoming IP address for a request, that is personal data.

[-] Blaiz0r@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago
[-] barubary@infosec.exchange 3 points 1 week ago

Yes, it's sent to posthog.

[-] Mikelius@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

Man, we just can't win with these UI tools, I also thought Bruno was the solution. Only use it on my work machine so that's why I guess I never noticed this. Thank you for sharing, time to go back to digging for better alternatives.

[-] Venat0r@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I never knew it had telemetry, this fork of it I haven't tried apparently doesn't though: https://github.com/Its-treason/bruno

[-] Hazzard@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

Wow, what a mess. Personally, I'm fine with this degree of telemetry, trying to understand how many people are using your app has obvious value and isn't a huge concern for me compared to what telemetry usually refers to. This feels like a bit of a "mountain out of a molehill" where the overwhelming quantity of feedback has aggravated the primary dev into being very jaded about the whole topic. I assume he got a lot more flack for this than is still preserved in this thread.

The big thing about Bruno is that nothing is synced to the cloud, so I can use it without worrying about it being a security risk. In addition to being pretty great, and letting me easily distribute a collection in a git repository. For that, it definitely still earns my support as a good tool, whether I'm logged as a "daily active user" or not.

Still, hopefully the main version does get that opt out added, mostly just to remove the black mark from its name and to be properly GDPR compliant.

[-] mhzawadi@lemmy.horwood.cloud 1 points 1 week ago

Also command line alias or function to do API requests with curl?

Maybe there is something out there?

~~Import our Postman library.~~ ❌
Clone our curl repo. ✅

[-] silasmariner@programming.dev 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

... -H "Content-Type: application/json" -d '{"query": "{ users { name } }"}'? No. Why would you do that when you can just do ... --json '{"query": "{ users { name } }"}'. Yeah curl is awesome.

[-] crater2150@feddit.org 11 points 1 week ago

The only thing I still use Postman for at work is when running API performance benchmarks, as I wasn't yet motivated enough to write a curl wrapper to do such tests and plot the results. Especially when doing things like ramp up etc. it becomes more than a simple for-loop.

Can someone recommend an existing command line tool for that?

[-] harmless64@lemmy.today 9 points 1 week ago

If you are running performance benchmarks, how about using jmeter?

[-] crater2150@feddit.org 10 points 1 week ago

Thank you, from a quick glance it seems to be able to do everything I need. I will try it for my next load test.

[-] RustyNova@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

The only point I can say is that editing text on the terminal isn't as simple as a regular text field. And AFAIK the only way to write a query on a regular text editor would be to write it, save to file, run file...

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 weeks ago

I find that if your command is complex enough that editing it on the terminal becomes annoying, then there's a very high chance you want it in a file anyways, just to document what you did and to allow easily re-running it.

Having said that, you can also have your shell open the command in your editor of choice: https://www.stefanjudis.com/today-i-learned/edit-long-shell-commands-in-your-usdeditor/

[-] dunz@feddit.nu 9 points 2 weeks ago

Pressing C-x C-e opens the current commandline in your default editor.

As in what's in your $EDITOR variable. If you haven't touched it, it's most likely Nano or some minimal vim

[-] Cort@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Couldn't you write in the text editor then copy/paste into terminal without saving? (Who needs documentation anyway)

[-] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

I write in Notepad++ then copy paste to WSL.

[-] pathos@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago

Didn't know cURL supports so many protocols

[-] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

meh, use whatever the fuck you want

there, I can swear too

[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 6 points 2 weeks ago

curl is not great when testing configuration for various software solutions. there are a few better options than postman like httpie and another one but I forget its name.

[-] princessnorah 2 points 1 week ago

Did you read the full post?

[-] Hupf@feddit.org 6 points 1 week ago

Total feelings of superiority: immeasurable.

[-] aeternum 6 points 1 week ago

isn't this how RMS uses the internet? By cURLing all the URLs?

[-] Infrapink@thebrainbin.org 12 points 1 week ago

No, he has his own bizarre approach

I generally do not connect to web sites from my own machine, aside from a few sites I have some special relationship with. I usually fetch web pages from other sites by sending mail to a program (see https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/womb/hacks.git) that fetches them, much like wget, and then mails them back to me. Then I look at them using a web browser, unless it is easy to see the text in the HTML page directly. I usually try lynx first, then a graphical browser if the page needs it.

That's a general statement about that man's existence - he has his own bizarre approach.

[-] VoxAliorum@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago

I love it that the page is designed to advertise multiple pieces of software but stopped at curl ^^

https://justuse.org/

More coming soon. Or not. I don't owe you shit.

ffmpeg is definitely also a candidate for this.

[-] Lightfire228@pawb.social 2 points 1 week ago
[-] _wizard@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Wish I knew how to copy / paste a multi line in windows.

[-] dedconfigurator@pawb.social 2 points 2 weeks ago

Just use netcat

[-] sexual_tomato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

What about doing grpc / protobuf stuff

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