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purity tests (anarchist.nexus)
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[-] RiikkaTheIcePrincess@pawb.social 6 points 13 hours ago

Easy to see when there's a proxy argument or flamewar going on because few of the comments engage with what's actually been said 😅 A couple things I see:

  1. There's a false dichotomy between saying "I don't want purity tests" and being 100% hell-bent on 'perfect purity' of some sort. For example, I came back after a break to see people in Linuxy communities fighting against 'purity testing' a blatant racist, among others. On one 'side' I see "Purity testing is bad!" and on the other 'side' it's "Okay but open bigotry maybe a little bad too???"

  2. People seem to be seriously insisting that everyone sit down, shut up, and blindly support the US Democratic Party? Never call anything out, never seek 'better,' only accept what's offered from above 🐎🧟 (pretend that's a donkey, okay? 😅 ) Anyway, maybe I'm out of line and "lefty" is farther from "leftist" than I think buuuut... no. The left is about a better world, not quiet acceptance. Maybe try hanging out with other liberals and moderates? Could be they're less eager to argue their own ideas or against what they see as wrong.

tl;dr: True purity tests are for auth garbage but I think what's going on here is people crying "zomg ur the real nazis" when somebody calls out a bigot.

[-] _stranger_@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

Purity tests are fine. Requiring Zero parts per trillion levels of purity is a problem. Those people don't exist.

[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 11 points 19 hours ago

Jesus Christ, a meme unironically supporting purity tests, what the actual fuck.

Can any of you that support purity tests actually pass all the purity tests?

[-] mathemachristian 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

The people on lemmy complaining about purity tests are typically the ones to rally to the defense of a US marine and Blackwater merc with 4 tours in Iraq, 1 in Afghanistan and a tattoo of the SS skull because he is running as a democrat.

[-] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Yes. By lying.

The fucked up thing us I often fail left purity tests for being too far left.

That said: too many red flags and I'm out, even if they got stars or tools on em

[-] JennyLaFae 17 points 1 day ago

When you demand perfection over progress you push people out of the learning zone into the panic zone where they double down on their comfort zone

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago

Ask any of the "no purity test" people how they feel about AES and you'll quickly discover that "no purity tests" only means "don't criticize the Democrats"

[-] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 minutes ago

What's wrong with the advanced encryption standard?

[-] Red_October@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

I feel like the problem with purity tests is that it doesn't allow for progress in the correct direction. Instead they demand either total and complete victory on every issue at once, or else we let the Nazis keep winning.

[-] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago

Strengthening my opinion that mr crypto is a terminally online troll who gets his jollies fostering leftist infighting.

[-] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

When I posted the meme to call out bigots, it wasn’t a roll call.

[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

Wow I can't believe you just said that. You've just failed the purity test and youre basically as bad as Donald Trump.....

[-] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Find evidence of me being a bigot

Notice how sunshine/aqua/million other stalker aliases has no evidence?

BTW my grandmother was from Lviv, and the thing sunshine is accusing me of is because I once expressed the opinion that western Europe and the USA are prolonging the war with no intention of fighting Russia because they love to see Slavs kill each other since they don't consider us proper humans.

[-] Sunshine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 17 hours ago

You hating Ukrainians

[-] Sunshine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

Tankie comes out again.

[-] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 day ago

Doing the feds work for free during a government shutdown, no less

[-] SaltSong@startrek.website 44 points 1 day ago

I don't want purity tests because we, on the left, are incapable of reaching a consensus on much of anything. If we can't agree to tolerate a limited amount of disagreement with each other, we can't work together on the things we do agree on, and those things tend to be kind of important.

[-] turdcollector69@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

Yeah purity testing has burned so many bridges unnecessarily.

It's one thing to hold yourself to a standard, it's another to repeatedly alienate yourself because nobody is pure enough to measure up.

The American left has been ineffectual because it's as interested in fighting itself as it is fighting conservatives.

Undecided/uninformed voters see the difference between the parties as: endless pissing contest vs proud ignorance. At least the ignorant are having fun and getting shit done.

Until the culture stops prioritizing smuggies over who's the best leftist and starts prioritizing meaningful action we're just going to keep losing.

We need to start treating politics as a popularity contest and not like a reddit comments pissing contest.

[-] alyqz@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

My experience with purity tests is that they typically wielded from a place of privilege, often in such a way as to defend themselves from criticism. I've seen purity tests used to dismiss sexual assault and ignore the lived experiences of marginalized communities.

Reality doesn't fit neatly into boxes like the people who wield purity tests seem to want. Sometimes people don't have the same opportunities to learn and understand. Sometimes you have to work with people who support policies that would see you dead. Not only does perfect not exist, the pursuit of it is one of the biggest barriers to achieving actual meaningful progress.

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