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[-] anoriginalthought@lemmy.ml 65 points 1 week ago

Notable Lines:

"Attention MOVE: This is America. You have to abide by the laws of the United States." They were given 15 minutes to come out.

Police used more than 10,000 rounds of ammunition. At 2 p.m., Sambor ordered that the compound be bombed.

Ramona Africa said that police fired at those trying to escape.

[-] socphoenix@midwest.social 57 points 1 week ago

They also reportedly blocked fire trucks from getting to the fire and are still tying up litigation claiming that they shouldn’t have to pay for the damage to the rest of the destroyed block from the resulting fire.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago

They also refused to release the remains of the people killed, denying they retained any. Eventually, the University of Pennsylvania admitted to retaining some of the remains of 12 year old Delisha Africa and returned them to her family, in 2021.

[-] socphoenix@midwest.social 28 points 1 week ago

Every time I learn more about this it somehow gets more horrific.

[-] lattrommi@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 week ago

also this: "The court decided that the plaintiffs did not have a Fourth Amendment claim against the city because there was no seizure when the defendants dropped explosives on the plaintiffs' buildings, and that city officials and police officers had qualified immunity"

[-] reagansrottencorpse@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 week ago

I'm so tired of living in this white supremacist shit hole.

[-] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Just as they did in Waco.
Defiance of the US regime has to be made into an example and crushed in the most violent way.

[-] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 56 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

A lawsuit in federal court found that the city used excessive force and violated constitutional protections against unreasonable search and seizure.

ya don't say

[-] jlow@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 1 week ago

And let me guess, it had zero consequences for any of the cops involved?

[-] prole 32 points 1 week ago
[-] Onyxonblack@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 week ago

ACAN - All Cops Are Nazis

[-] crazyminner@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago
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[-] crazyminner@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago

All Cops Need To Die.

[-] RebekahWSD@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

I learned about this in school and it broke the little trust I had in cops (I was raised sheltered and white). Any lingering trust was broken when I talked to my mothers (now ex) cop friend. Spiteful shitty person she was.

[-] anoriginalthought@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 week ago

Most Statesians lose their faith in cops/country in a similar way. There's a reason US high schools don't teach recent history. If it's far enough back like the early 1900's or 1800's then you can rationalize it with platitudes like "it was a different time back then" or "we hadn't evolved as a society yet". Lot harder to rationalize away when it was only 40 years ago.

[-] RebekahWSD@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

So they no longer teach recent history? Sucks. I think I'm now at an age where I can go terrorize a school board. My mother will be delighted!

[-] jupiter_jazz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago

I never learned about the Tulsa race massacre, and I live in state. I was much older when I learned about it.

[-] anoriginalthought@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago

Civic engagement is always good. Some high schools will have some things in the textbooks but class curricula never get that far, preferring to leave off around WWII or the second red scare at latest if they even touch the 1900's.

[-] RebekahWSD@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Weird. I know we went up to the then current Desert Storm stuff. Well. Almost current. And watched American History X in class.

Scarring as it should be.

Then I remember that was twenty years ago and get very sad.

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[-] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 13 points 1 week ago

Yes, the police have always been the enemy of the people, doubly so for minorities.

[-] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 9 points 1 week ago

Also worth noting that any owner-occupied homes that were destroyed likely received nothing from insurance because most insurance policies specifically exclude damage caused by military or law enforcement action.

This also came up when police destroyed someone's home trying to apprehend a thief who'd broken in to try to escape the police. They literally rammed a police vehicle through a wall of the home for example and the homeower was forced to sue their own police department to try to recoup any of the costs they created for them

If your home is badly damaged or destroyed by an event not covered by insurance you can be due tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars in repairs, it may not be occupiable until it is repaired, and you still have to pay your mortgage and taxes while you're trying to figure out where to find a hundred thousand dollars to fix it on top of your new expense of renting some place to crash while the work is completed. Oh and replacing any belongings that were destroyed in the process too of course

[-] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 week ago

This was a old ass Dollop from 2014

https://overcast.fm/+AA3AMVQ5uHg

Mostly terrifying, for a comedy show

[-] ideonek@piefed.social 5 points 1 week ago
[-] LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I am not defending the Philadelphia PDs actions here, which were clearly inappropriate, but I don't think it's accurate to say they "murdered" 11 people. If the PD kills someone while trying to serve an arrest warrant after being shot at, that is pretty clearly a lawful homicide and not murder. The death of the children could certainly be considered manslaughter but I don't think it meets the standard for murder either since there was, arguably, no intention to kill them.

[-] superniceperson@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 week ago

Sometimes I wonder how the us has gotten away with its too numerous to count war crimes and crimes against humanity; and then, like magic, one of you appear.

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[-] LePoisson@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago

I am not defending the Philadelphia PDs actions here

That's literally what you're doing. Literally.

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[-] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 28 points 1 week ago

They used more than 10000 rounds and ultimately dropped bombs on the neighborhood. That's excessive force and therefore no longer a lawful homicide.

[-] Apeman42@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago

So it seems like you're something of an expert on this subject, and that being the case maybe you can help answer a question I've had for a while:

Do different boot leathers have different tastes, or is it more of a texture thing?

[-] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

thanks officer pig

Certainly the best way to "serve an arrest warrant".
Who coul've imagined innocent men, women and children would die horribly from this:
serve an arrest warrant

[-] 7toed@midwest.social 21 points 1 week ago

Bomb. Helicopter. Dropped. No intention my fat asshole

[-] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago

Did they say whoops?

[-] TheMadBeagle@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 week ago

My brother in Christ, they were charged with useing excessive force and burned down a huge part of a neighborhood. Fuck off out of here with that god awful take.

[-] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 week ago

I think dropping bombs does actually count as murderous intent.

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[-] bestagon@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You don’t think dropping bombs counts as intent to kill? I think they were careless enough regarding collateral damage to say they killed the victims.

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[-] mriormro@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 week ago

Lol, choke on a dick.

[-] Evkob@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago

A brutal atrocity committed by a police department and your reaction is to "Well, AKTSHUALLY", where's your goddamn sense of empathy man?

Calling the bombing of a neighbourhood simply "inappropriate" is fucked and I fear for your humanity. "Inappropriate" is when I fart at the dinner table, not when one uses bombs on other humans.

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