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I am not defending the Philadelphia PDs actions here, which were clearly inappropriate, but I don't think it's accurate to say they "murdered" 11 people. If the PD kills someone while trying to serve an arrest warrant after being shot at, that is pretty clearly a lawful homicide and not murder. The death of the children could certainly be considered manslaughter but I don't think it meets the standard for murder either since there was, arguably, no intention to kill them.
Sometimes I wonder how the us has gotten away with its too numerous to count war crimes and crimes against humanity; and then, like magic, one of you appear.
I literally said I am not defending the police department. People should absolutely have gone to jail for this, but explain to me how it's murder for a police officer to shoot and kill someone who shot at them first, while legally trying to serve a warrant.
You do not have bombs at the ready, on planes, loaded, ready to go, if you arent expecting to murder people.
I am not gonna defend hitler but he didn't do anything unlawful
That's literally what you're doing. Literally.
Zero nuance as usual... just because I don't think something was murder doesn't mean I am defending them or their actions.
They used more than 10000 rounds and ultimately dropped bombs on the neighborhood. That's excessive force and therefore no longer a lawful homicide.
So it seems like you're something of an expert on this subject, and that being the case maybe you can help answer a question I've had for a while:
Do different boot leathers have different tastes, or is it more of a texture thing?
thanks officer pig
Certainly the best way to "serve an arrest warrant".
serve an arrest warrant
Who coul've imagined innocent men, women and children would die horribly from this:
Bomb. Helicopter. Dropped. No intention my fat asshole
Did they say whoops?
My brother in Christ, they were charged with useing excessive force and burned down a huge part of a neighborhood. Fuck off out of here with that god awful take.
I think dropping bombs does actually count as murderous intent.
They dropped, in total, 3 pounds of bombs on a roof. Nobody was harmed by the explosions.
It's just a light bombing guys, chill.
5 dead children, 6 adults you scumbag
I don't get it. How the fuck these people end up on lemmy of all places. Do they not have reddit for this crap?
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Obviously you don't know what the word intent means.
You don’t think dropping bombs counts as intent to kill? I think they were careless enough regarding collateral damage to say they killed the victims.
They dropped two 1.5 pound bombs, which did not hurt anyone directly. The plan was to set the building on fire and flush people out, which was a bad idea, but they didn't just level the building with explosives or something.
The fact that they didn't go full zionist doesn't make it better?!
This looks pretty zionist:
yup i stand corrected, absolute settler behavior
And if your apartment building was 5 buildings away, burned down and your children died due to their wreckless behavior, predictable outcome, wanton disregard for the lives of the innocent people all around and prevention of firefighters from responding to the scene, what would you call it? It was just an oopsie?
INAL but it actually meets the definition of 3rd degree murder is Pennsylvania I believe.
"In Pennsylvania, third-degree murder is a homicide committed with malice but without the specific intent to kill (first-degree murder) or during the commission of a felony (second-degree murder)."
When you're in just as much or more danger from the "good guys" as you are the "bad guys", and they have an equal disregard for the law, they're no longer the good guys.
Things I never said:
-The Philly PD are the good guys. -Burning the apartment blocks was just an oopsie.
The buildings that burned down were already evacuated. Nobody not in the MOVE compound died. I am not a lawyer either but I do not think attempting to forcibly evict someone would be considered malice. It is generally a legal thing for police to do if they have a warrant.
As usual I am frustrated by the lack of nuance on Lemmy. If you are not calling for the deaths of police officers you are a bootlicking fascist.
Lol, choke on a dick.
A brutal atrocity committed by a police department and your reaction is to "Well, AKTSHUALLY", where's your goddamn sense of empathy man?
Calling the bombing of a neighbourhood simply "inappropriate" is fucked and I fear for your humanity. "Inappropriate" is when I fart at the dinner table, not when one uses bombs on other humans.