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Banned from TechTakes@awful.systems <mailto:TechTakes@awful.systems> for Fascism (sh.itjust.works)
submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by Icytrees@sh.itjust.works to c/yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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Yeah, I don't know what's going on here. Looks like a mod having a breakdown. I posted the rest for context and I'm in the middle.

I got linked to the comment chain from elsewhere. The comment had a link to a tech dude's blog, supposed to point out his white supremecism. I didn't see anything bad in that article, but stumbled on another one with nazi apologia, thought they may have linked the wrong article, posted it. That's it. That's all I did.

I guess it is called awful.systems and the culture confuses me, but man, what a dick move to call me a facist in the modlog.

If nothing else, I hope this drama is entertaining.

Edit: Because this is, well, the internet: I was not defending DHH. Another removed/banned comment said they couldn't find anything bad in that link either, so I found one where DHH was being more blatant in his bullshit.

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[-] limer@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago

lol I was banned today for “failure to grow” because i did not have the proper thinking.

It was on me though. I should not have commented there, knowing what happens regularly.

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 1 week ago

A.S Has a very itchy ban finger generally and often assumes everyone is as knowledgeable as them so they tend to see behavior like yours as deliberate trolling (or in your case, likely crypto-fascism). It's really the sort of place one needs to "lurk moar" before interacting. I personally don't like how hostile their instance treats people stumbling in, because it often causes drama and false positives like this, but OTOH this allows them to run a tight ship and not have to deal with cryptofash and libertarian shite which can be exhausting.

Ultimately it is what it is and A.S has a tiny impact on the threadiverse relatively. Other than that I agree that it's not cool to label people fascists at the drop of a hat in the modlog but perhaps their admins will pop in and explain if they saw actual fash behaviour.

[-] Icytrees@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago

I can see that, and thanks for the explanation. I clicked around a bit after to double-check rules and see if I got the context wrong. But yeah, seems like it was my inexperience with the community and aggressive modding.

[-] ech@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Got a perma ban from there for reporting another user that jumped straight to cussing me out after I gently corrected a typo they made. Ended up with a ban because (shockingly) another user also found that disproportionate and reported as well, and the admin accused us of collaborative "spurious reporting" 🙄 They also hid it from the modlog somehow/for some reason. Found that pretty sketchy.

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 week ago

It's standard lemmy behaviour. If you ban with content removal, the removed content doesn't make a modlog entry

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 week ago

it bugs me. language is imprecise and sometimes you get banned and the ban reason doesn't, in your head, map to what you were saying. and then that changes how anyone who looks you up thinks you think. i'd much rather have a system that makes it clear what exactly you said and what the problem was

[-] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago

It might be good to have the option of a right of reply in the modlog for the person being moderated, for each mod action?

[-] ech@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

*shrug* All I know is any other ban or comment removal I've seen on my accounts has been accompanied by modlog entries.

[-] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 4 points 1 week ago

Sounds like a pretty

Awful

System of communities

[-] Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago

What you said in the context you gave and the words in your removed comment track, so I'm gonna say PTB.

[-] Icytrees@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago

Thanks, yo.

I even posted my old account info on my profile page when I joined a new instance, for transparency, with a comment history going back more than two years, showing I'm way more of a chronically online queer socialist.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago

I've never been banned for (supposedly) being a fascist... but I've been banned plenty of times by shitlibs for (supposedly) being a tankie.

Here's little old me being a tankie, btw.

[-] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

Yeah I blocked that instance since time back, their takes (and attitudes) were generally as awful as the systems they complain about

[-] dbtng@eviltoast.org 4 points 1 week ago

They are just assholes. Its really simple. You don't want to be there.

[-] mormund@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago

Defending DHH? Seems justified from the mod :)

[-] Icytrees@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago

I posted an article confirming he's a piece of shit.

[-] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 3 points 1 week ago

Was the original article the one talking about how its a problem that London is becoming less white?

[-] Icytrees@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

No, it was a generic message about work on systems and moving platforms.

Edit: Note that clicking these links gives DHH traffic.

OP posted this, saying it shows he sucks: https://world.hey.com/dhh/legacy-without-nostalgia-b19708c9

I posted this to show he sucks: https://world.hey.com/dhh/calling-someone-a-nazi-is-a-permission-slip-for-violence-4bfbbb82

[-] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 3 points 1 week ago

Ahh. Looks like anyone spreading links to fascist propaganda is being called a fascist?

[-] Icytrees@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 week ago

I guess we're not supposed to show how facists are being facists when people ask to show them the facism.

[-] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Correct. You don't need to spread obscure blogs that push fascist ideology. OTOH, calling you a fascist seems like a really bad way of explaining that.

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Calling out fascism is now fascism? What is antifascism now, ignoring them until it's too late?

[-] Grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 days ago

So Americans have actually been Antifa this whole time?

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 week ago

hey's blog is hardly what i'd consider obscure, and the alternative to providing evidence that someone is a fascist is just assuming whatever anyone says about anyone is true, which is normalizing defamation and libel. i don't love either that presenting evidence of fascism allows fascism to attach its propaganda to what's being said, but i think the alternative is worse.

better is to conextualize and educate. say "here is what was said, and why it's a problem." not discussing dogwhistles and why they're problems only lets them spread farther without anyone knowing the truth about them, even if they spread less far. in other words: they become more effective if you ignore them.

i think it's a very hard balance to strike but we have to put in the effort to do it rather than having faith people will act right. worldwide, authoritarianism is on the rise. fascists have the mic. we don't have the luxury of trust people to be educated to recognize what they see without providing context

[-] Icytrees@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

I disagree. The blog was already linked in the comment I responded to. Another user, who didn't know about DHH's bullshit, asked what was so bad about the benign article linked. I didn't know if OP was being a shithead or just linked the wrong article, so I was saying "this guy is a dick because he said this."

Propaganda doesn't stop existing when the people who know better pretend it's not there. I believe in bringing receipts when making a claim.

[-] marcos@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

what a dick move to call me a facist in the modlog

Welcome to the club. Mods claiming people are fascists in public places they can't defend themselves seems to be a common occurrence here.

[-] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

It's fucking weird how that word gets used against everyone and everything on this platform.

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

I got banned with "fascist" as the only notes because I said tiananmen square happened. That's all. Didn't deny it, or say 100 million were killed in it. Just that the event as described happened.

[-] Icytrees@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

I'm in. As long as there's snacks at the meetings.

[-] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

plenty of Lemmy instances love calling fact checking and sources "Facism"

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