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“We took the freedom of speech away,” President Donald Trump boasted in his opening remarks at his “antifa roundtable” Wednesday.

Wow... Despite the headline that still took me by surprise.

[-] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 32 points 1 week ago

The only way my free speech will be taken is from my cold, dead lips.

[-] killingspark@feddit.org 23 points 1 week ago

ICE-Agent: don't threaten me with a good time

[-] lobut@lemmy.ca 58 points 1 week ago

Nah, Kamala had a stance on Palestine therefore this is the okay alternative. /s

Good thing that situation is completely resolved now /s

[-] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 week ago
[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

It was so bad that we had to make the Palestinians suffer more by letting a fascist win instead.

GO AMERICA!!!!

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The media is mostly controlled by republicans and anti-left billionaire centrists, so yes msnbc wants you to think people who care about gaza are the only people responsible for the last election just like they want you to believe that trans people "going too far" are why gavin newsome will lose the general election in 2028 (despite a large portion of democrats being LGBTQ voters and him falling into many right wing pitfalls on the issue)

I haven't seen any math that holds up that gaza lead to Trump's win on its own. What it likely did is create a lack of volunteers that led democrats to lose. You can't scold people into knocking on doors, that's a "lead by example" situation.

Democrats stepped on a lot of fucking rakes by trying to triangulate immigration and homelessness as well as catering their messaging to (and enriching right wing media with ad revenue in the process) people who will never vote for them.

Specifically Trump has also said Elon helped him rig the election. Elon musk and other social media owners hire people that understand psychology and will make AI clones of the most annoying people they can find and bury twitter in bots emulating those people just like they already find the people that upset conservatives the most (scientists have found conservatives overreact to disgust) and use that to ragebait them constantly. I've seen people calling themselves anarchists on this site who mimic media talking points about "online leftists". Psychology works.

Assume somebody that makes more in a day than you will make in 100 lifetimes is spending a small fraction of their money trying to make you blame the people next to you for your problems instead of themselves because billionairs are doing exactly that.

If there are future elections any time soon, knocking on doors is going to be a lot more effective than screaming into an internet void full of chat bots that all disappear after elections. But if democrats spend all their money and goodwill buying ads on fox news again we're doomed.

[-] RenLinwood 8 points 1 week ago

"Had a stance' lol she's voluntarily complicit in a fucking genocide just like the rest of the corporate dems, you're just upset that you weren't allowed to trade palestinian lives for your own comfort and security

[-] lobut@lemmy.ca 48 points 1 week ago

you’re just upset that you weren’t allowed to trade palestinian lives for your own comfort and security

Is that why I'm upset? Good thing she lost and palestinian lives are perfectly fine now.

[-] RenLinwood 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Correct, you couldn't care less about anything that happens as long as it doesn't affect you. Harris could have won if she'd been willing to disavow Israel's genocidal bullshit and believably commit to policy changes that would actually help the working class and reign in billionaires, but she said plainly that nothing would change because that's what her billionaire donors told her to say and she doesn't give a shit about anything but getting paid.

[-] lobut@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 week ago

Correct, you couldn’t care less about anything that happens as long as it doesn’t affect you

I like how you know me so well. Like I wasn't at the Palestinian protests last week in London yelling at the Met police for arresting perfectly innocent protestors.

I'll leave it at this though single-issue voting is fucking stupid.

[-] RenLinwood 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

There were a whole lot more issues with her campaign than just her unwavering support for Israel, her explicit commitment to a wildly unpopular and unsustainable status quo and her baffling attempts to court conservatives clearly didn't do her any favors. But even if that weren't the case being a single issue voter is entirely justifiable when he single issue is a fucking genocide.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 week ago

being a single issue voter is entirely justifiable when he single issue is a fucking genocide.

Not when all the alternative was "more fucking genocide with a side of fascism"

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[-] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago

You are detached from reality mate. Neither option would have helped the Palestinian people. So there were no realistic choices on the table that would have solved that issue.

Instead, people got sold a bag of rhetoric and lies, like the ones you're peddling, and we got the worst case scenario by a measurement so far removed from the other candidates that it has a likely real chance to end democracy as we know it it the US. Its already happening.

So well done, you fucking nonce.

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[-] balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 13 points 1 week ago

Sounds like you're the one complicit in a genocide

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[-] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago

And Trump fires said genocide on while Harris was still sending aid.

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[-] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 55 points 1 week ago

Do like Disney and instead of using actual American flags, use close approximations. Any action taken against you for burning a flag with 54 stars can net you a pretty penny in a civil suit!

[-] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 39 points 1 week ago

Burn swastikas. Watch them squirm.

[-] NJSpradlin@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Use the swastika Nazi America flags from Peacemaker.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago

Free speech maximalism. So much free speech for the likes of The Annoying Orange; zero for any unpersons.

[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago
[-] MOARbid1@piefed.social 29 points 1 week ago

Correction: The Heritage Foundation stole your free speech.

[-] IamSparticles@lemmy.zip 26 points 1 week ago

It was a stupid way for him to word that (no surprise, literally everything that comes out of his mouth is stupid), but I just want to point out that in the context of what he's saying, what he intended to convey is that he got rid of the "freedom of speech" defense specifically for flag burning. Which... he didn't. But he's trying to by writing yet another executive order to instruct the DoJ to prosecute flag burners. Because, you know... a plague of flag burning is among the biggest problems facing our nation today.

[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago
[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

we need to update the definition of comic book villainy to include "the simpsons called this"

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[-] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Waiting for Mother Nature to take his free speech away

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[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 16 points 1 week ago

something like half the bill of rights.

[-] whiwake@lemmy.cafe 13 points 1 week ago

Don’t worry. We never had free speech. Here, watch: kill Trump and save us all. Ban in 3, 2, 1…

[-] Wrufieotnak@feddit.org 52 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You do know that freedom of speech protects you from government sanctions for speech, right? Last I checked the Fediverse wasn't the government. So the moderators and admins here are free to say: "we don't want you here" and ban you and nobodies freedom of speech was hurt.

Private organisations could always exclude you from their premise, same as you are free to exclude them from your premise. That's called house rules.

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[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 week ago
[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago
[-] whiwake@lemmy.cafe 6 points 1 week ago

Mods must be sleeping…. KILL TRUMP NOW

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago

Well that's just a good and practical idea 🤷

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[-] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

He might think he did but he sure as hell didn't.

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

He's sure as hell trying and the supreme court will likely cosign everything.

[-] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago

Why wouldn't he? Americans continue to allow it.

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