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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by Jumuta@sh.itjust.works to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world

PSA: DO NOT INSTALL xx.04 releases!!!

  • The .04 stands for "April", commonly known for "April Fools".
  • Many projects use the term "LTS", meaning "Lies, Tricks, and Slander". So called 'Enterprise' users often promote these releases to "own the noobs". Be warned!
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[-] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 50 points 2 weeks ago

Or just use Debian, if you really enjoy the sluggishness and shitty dependency management of APT.

Alternatively you could switch to Arch and the glory that is pacman (or, even better, yay).

...But that's none of my business.

[-] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 57 points 2 weeks ago

For a main desktop, absolutely.

For low maintenance servers and vms? Staying with Debian.

For a laptop on which Arch gives issues (mine where with battery when standby). POP-OS has been working well.

[-] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 38 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

No, that's fair. I wouldn't recommend Arch for server use. Debian has its place, and I respect that.

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 6 points 2 weeks ago

My home server runs OpenSUSE Leap and I've quite enjoyed it.

[-] AnthropomorphicCat@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah. I use Arch on my gaming PC. But on my laptop-converted-to-a-NAS I use OpenMediaVault (Which is Debian based)

[-] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 37 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

There are 2 wolves inside you.
One uses the yay and can install anything from AUR.
The other can install propreitery .deb packages your university vpn comes in to submit homeworks.

There is a crow pulling both wolves by the tail called "bedrock linux" that can install packages using both apt and aur.

The crow is the most dangerous.

[-] jim3692@discuss.online 17 points 2 weeks ago

Bedrock Linux requires you to change distro.

Let me introduce you to distrobox. It containerizes the distro of choice, and allows you to install any software of any distro, without messing any system files.

Regarding the VPN case though, I haven't tested it, but I would rather install any kind of proprietary software inside a VM. Steam may be an exception.

[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 10 points 2 weeks ago

There is a crow pulling both wolves by the tail called "bedrock linux" that can install packages using both apt and aur.

Oh god... what happens when they both try to pull the same library as a dependency, but slightly different versions because different repos?

[-] exu@feditown.com 7 points 2 weeks ago

You can just make an AUR package that downloads and installs the .deb

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 4 points 2 weeks ago

Technically you can actually install Apt onto Arch Linux. (don't)

[-] ChilledPeppers@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago
[-] rikudou@lemmings.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

Or just switch to Nix and finally witness some actually good package manager.

[-] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 29 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yeah, but I need to be able to actually do shit. Preferably in finite amounts of time.

[-] jim3692@discuss.online 7 points 2 weeks ago

The Nix package manager can be installed on most distros.

Keep in mind though:

  • GPU accelerated apps will require nixGL, or symlinking Nix's Mesa to /run/opengl-drivers
  • Debian 12 has an ancient version of nix, and you need to first grab the nix binaries from the 24.11 channel. Newer channels do not support Debian's nix
  • Fedora may require to disable SELinux. Otherwise it can be a real pain to properly configure nix
[-] rikudou@lemmings.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Yep, I use it everywhere, that's why I said Nix and not NixOS. I even use it on the company Windows machine inside WSL.

[-] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 weeks ago

Look at me I am running a package management system with atomic upgrades that can roll back, and indubitable sounds positively fabulous.

Mostash

[-] oce@jlai.lu 6 points 2 weeks ago
[-] exu@feditown.com 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Paru is a rust rewrite(ish) of yay and therefor even even betterer

Edit: uncorrecting autocorrect

[-] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 1 points 2 weeks ago

File based package review and automatic git tracking + merge of local PKGBUILD changes are pretty attractive features. I'll give it a try.

[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 5 points 2 weeks ago

No, thanks. I like my distro not to break with updates ever. Arch breaks stuff every few months at least. I know cause I have used it. Also I prefer to just have fewer updates in general.

[-] protogen420 3 points 2 weeks ago

apt's dependency management is shit?

[-] mittorn@masturbated.one 3 points 2 weeks ago
[-] protogen420 1 points 1 week ago

let me see if I understood this straight, someone replaced a core library which caused apt to rightfully to belive the package is not there which caused all packages that depend on it to be marked for autoremoval as expected

[-] Ofiuco@piefed.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago

Currently trying CachyOS KDE, so far it's decent but... I still have no idea where the flathub repository is supposed to be managed from (yes, Ive seen the wiki, no, it's not where it says it should be) and the app store was a lot friendlier on Fedora KDE.
Things run better here and things that didn't run on Fedora, actually run on Cachy so that's a reason to be less angry at myself. I just have to test Xlink Kai, mumble server and ZeroTier to see if they work.

[-] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

Tbf, you can always run arch in distrobox and just use the AUR from there if you prefer fedora. I personally do though with gnome.

[-] Ofiuco@piefed.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

It's not that I prefer Fedora (so far I'm liking CachyOS better), it's that Cachy could be better/friendlier and I hope it does.

[-] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

The server software world is debian based. Fortunately/unfortunately.

Horses for courses, desktop and server OS's should have different priorities and approaches.

[-] gkaklas@lemmy.zip 28 points 2 weeks ago

Even better: stay away from xx.10 releases as well!

[-] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 30 points 2 weeks ago

.10 stands for October and October is the spooky month! xx.10 releases are just here to sow terror and panic!

[-] Johnmannesca@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

You mean I can turn my PC into a haunted house? That'll save me so much money and time!

[-] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 27 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Zozano@aussie.zone 23 points 2 weeks ago

Thats why I use nixOS. Its only ever .05 or .11

As it should be.

[-] somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

do you remember what happened last time the version is 11?

(/s, I <3 Nix & NixOS)

[-] zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 weeks ago

I thought LTS was short for Let Them Suffer

[-] kinther@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

This I can get behind

[-] Ging@anarchist.nexus 18 points 2 weeks ago

This is a messed up meme πŸ˜‚ When I first into'd ubuntu, I really thought I was big-brained for choosing LTS over the more current release. Mentors are so much more important than you'd think when you're 14ish

[-] nitramek@lemmy.wtf 3 points 2 weeks ago

Wait I know this is a meme but isnt LTS a way to be on the most stable version with the biggest support by other software/hw?

[-] genuineparts@infosec.pub 10 points 2 weeks ago

Arch user here btw. What is a... 'release'?

[-] drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago

When a mommy and daddy love each other very much-

[-] genuineparts@infosec.pub 3 points 2 weeks ago

Again... Arch user. Such release will never happen for me either :D

[-] Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 weeks ago

Rolling is the way, embrace the updates, go TumbleWeed

[-] lemmyknow@lemmy.today 4 points 2 weeks ago

That explains some of the instability in Pop!_OS 24.04… Programs suddenly closing, session dying upon unlock. Bluetooth turning on by itself sometimes. Glad to know it isn't haunted, though

[-] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

In fairness isn't that the beta release of the cosmic desktop? I would expect bugs and random hauntings

[-] lemmyknow@lemmy.today 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, it is Beta. Not a horrible experience overall, despite being Beta. The Bluetooth thing can be a tad annoying, when my headphones randomly scream "connected" in my ears. Windows closing can also be a tad annoying, and the death of my active session moreso (akin to all windows closing together. Combo!)

[-] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 1 points 2 weeks ago

"They have taken us for absolute fools."

[-] obscur_3@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

Its also autism month...

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