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[-] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 28 points 11 hours ago

That also means they now will know about every app installs, worldwide. So when the government comes in and ask who have installed this app they decided is bad, they can come get you.

Signal, VPNs, they'll have a list of everyone opting out of government-mandated backdoors.

LineageOS so worth losing Play Integrity.

[-] Suburbanl3g3nd@lemmings.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Is there a guide to get lineage on my galaxy s24? Or something else?

[-] Stez827@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

Yeah download.lineageos.org but I don't think the s24 is supported.

[-] miked@piefed.social 44 points 18 hours ago

When it announced developer verification, it said the process would not evaluate the content of an app.

Ok, sure. The ICE Block app Google just pulled from Play Store will not be evaluated.

[-] amino 6 points 13 hours ago

you mean Apple? the app was exclusively on iOS. it was a doxxing target from the get-go ran by an amateur that ran his database with unfixed vulnerabilities

[-] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 12 points 13 hours ago
[-] amino 2 points 13 hours ago

sounds like it was garbage. IRL ice watch volunteers use Signal or Whatsapp

[-] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

I'm sure that's another well researched comment.

[-] amino 1 points 13 hours ago

these apps are slop generating machines. the equivalent of relying on Nextdoor to keep your community safe. I'm waiting for any journalism or research papers to come out proving they didn't just make the situation worse

[-] Kalon@lemmy.world 41 points 19 hours ago

Paid or free, All I know is that I won't be buying any device i can't install my own apps on.

[-] mesamunefire@piefed.social 72 points 22 hours ago

Why cant we be trusted with installing apps on our phones? Its my device, ill do what I want!

Its so dumb.

[-] brax@sh.itjust.works 30 points 20 hours ago

Just wait until they start pushing this with computers too. We have continually coddled normies by dumbing shit down instead of pushing them to be smarter. No doubt they'll look at this as a good thing too.

[-] weirdo_from_space@sh.itjust.works 13 points 20 hours ago

Once ARM on PC takes off it's over.

[-] pycorax@sh.itjust.works 5 points 12 hours ago

x86 is far too ingrained for that to happen. Even if it takes over on the consumer side of things, enterprise will still be stuck on x86 and you know how difficult it is to get them to change. The odds of it dying is exceedingly low.

[-] phx@lemmy.world 1 points 26 minutes ago

This is one reason why the changes to the boot process on X86 were a major concern, if machines only boot an an OS with a "trusted" signing keys then it is a pretty straight path to MS-only. Lack of published architecture assist gets here and there are X86 machines that will fail spectacularly on Linux due to this (weird EFI boot stuff, certain chipsets for such drivers can't be had or made, etc). Hardware-level DRM is a major threat.

Then add in stuff like browser-based DRM. Oh cool, you can install whatever you want but this differently stuff will only play on Chrome with the DRM extension enabled, maybe sending CPUID info, and doing a bunch of other stuff for lock-in that makes the IE6+ActiveX/MS-JS pale in comparison

[-] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 3 hours ago

This is why we still have 2G I heard. Telling regular customers to upgrade from 3G was easy. Like, what are they gonna do about it. But 2G is used by a lot of IoT devices, including gas and electric companies, and they're not upgrading that easily while I assume generating a significant revenue.

[-] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 14 hours ago

We then have RISC-V computer by Pine64 running Libre-ICEBlock

[-] weirdo_from_space@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago

I don't believe those will be accessible for people outside of Western markets.

[-] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Unless the arriving country's customs decide to inspect it and seize it. You should be able to buy it anywhere.

[-] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

There are plenty of ARM on PC examples and there will always be an alternative option that is open there. It's too entrenched.

We need to free mobile devices with function distros like mobian/postmarketos that are fully functional.

[-] weirdo_from_space@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago

Yes there are, 90% can't run Linux. And PCs built to specificly run Linux will only be available to Western markets, everyone else will be stuck with whatever corpos put out because they will be excluded by the weak currencies they use and in some cases also by prohibitive import taxes.

[-] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 19 hours ago

Meh, Linux. There's an alternative for those who want it, not a big deal. Smartphones, and most ARM devices are just weird to me. Device specific images, flashing, crap. Why can't they just be PC-like?

[-] jnod4@lemmy.ca 4 points 16 hours ago

Arm is slowly advancing on pcs.. We'll have bootlocked pcs in no time

[-] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 24 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

All the "Western" Empires are in decline. A lot of Europe, Australia, Canada, USA are all doing this shit at the same time clearly in cooperation with one another for anti privacy.

The corporations meanwhile want their increasingly walled in gardens and diseased governments won't stop them as long as they get their back doors and data mines.

edit:

Reminded me of something. I was watching one of the few FuriOS reviews on YouTube, and the guy happened to be Australian. He took a moment to mention that he couldn't use the phone at all on specific mobile service providers because they only allowed white-listed pre-approved hardware.

That's pretty sickening.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 11 hours ago

and one country stands to benefit from this, and likely is behind the sudden all these countries doing it.

[-] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 14 hours ago

All the “Western” Empires are in decline.

Its why I'm slowly losing my will to live.

[-] benignintervention@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago

Not only that, I got the newest android update yesterday and it automatically, without my consent, took my fingerprint and face

[-] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 2 points 20 hours ago
[-] benignintervention@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago

Right? I put in a complaint from the system feedback tool, but I don't expect a response. Between the way Google is roping off Android and killing dependent open source OS's, and my relative lack of money, I'm only seeing privacy options dwindle

[-] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 75 points 23 hours ago

"Google, however, has decided anonymity is too risky. "

The rest of the sane universe appear to be deciding Google is too risky.

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 36 points 23 hours ago

The cognitive dissonance with saying that the current state of Android is "too risky" without giving a single example of why it supposedly is.

[-] Capricorn_Geriatric@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

Sorry for knitpicking, but saying "the rest of the sane world" implies Google is also sane.

[-] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Sane => Worry Google is a threat

Worry Google is a threat =/> Sane

[-] brax@sh.itjust.works 23 points 20 hours ago

They should rebrand it to aOS since it's quickly becoming just as shit trash as iOS. I wonder how many people will jump ship to iOS where they still get a shitty OS but with some modicum of privacy OOTB as an added bonus

My next phone is going to be as basic as possible and I'll have to start carrying a laptop with me everywhere again.

[-] mlg@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago

A lot already have actually, writing was on the wall back when they dropped the version names which was also around the time a lot of the original Android hardware OEMs gave in which left us with carriers giving you the option between Samsung, Google, and Motorola.

Then they abused Trump's first term to ban Huawei for spyware since it was competing too well.

The frontend UI sucks, the backend ART sucks, the process pausing system can't hold most of your app views because reasons, Samsung removed OEM unlocking, Google has a stranglehold on decade old RCS with only google messages supporting such a protocol (wtf?????), AOSP is functionally dead, Gapps has been eating the left side of your homepage for years, etc etc.

I'm thinking about getting some handheld and making it into a PDA, like those upcoming DS-like consoles, and then maybe just get a pocket modem for phone/internet.

[-] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 30 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

if only...

As part of this so-called improved verification, Google should also be held liable for any damages caused by malicious applications.

but no, regulators won't do shit and they'll have the cake and eat it too

governments are becoming the puppets of big tech, in 50 years we'll have night city IRL

[-] weirdo_from_space@sh.itjust.works 2 points 20 hours ago

Snow Crash's world is here...

[-] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 20 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

i hope this shit gets hacked and cracked to allow the install of any apk so quickly.

guess i aint upgrading anymore. congrats google you made your own os less safe

[-] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 19 hours ago

guess i aint upgrading anymore.

Oh, no, this will be pushed to devices. Ever seen the "your device has new features"?

[-] somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 21 hours ago

also remove com.wssyncmldm to forcibly prevent your phone from updating

CAREFUL: when you reset, android updates itself to the newest version.

[-] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 26 points 23 hours ago

$25? lol no, my next phone fill be either Linux or a flip phone.

[-] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

I have 2 cheap options I could recommend for Custom ROMS:

  1. Moto G 5G 2024 $140 runs Lineage OS (I have this)
  2. CMF Phone 1 $290 runs e/OS, has OLED display, overall a better phone than the cheap moto.

I'm not sure about "Linux" atm, there are still more apps for Custom Roms than you'd find for Linux that's optimized for mobile use.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 22 points 23 hours ago

This is so fucking bad.

[-] Moonrise2473@lemmy.ml 20 points 22 hours ago

Can't install apps offline on my own phone 🤯

[-] original_reader@lemmy.zip 22 points 23 hours ago

Just when I thought that I cannot possibly hate Google even more, I see D. Veloper.

[-] NeilBru@lemmy.world 14 points 21 hours ago
[-] original_reader@lemmy.zip 3 points 17 hours ago

If truly wish that were the way forward.

As it stands, name a good one that works with current apps and isn't a battery hog. 🤷‍♂️

[-] Lem453@lemmy.ca 1 points 51 minutes ago

This seems to be the closest

https://furilabs.com/

this post was submitted on 03 Oct 2025
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