When I was 12 I wanted to send the worst criminals to live in prisons in Somalia so that Somolies could have jobs and we would never have to see criminals…
And now there is a literal version of that idea from a 12 year old
I think you're underestimating 12-year olds here.
I mean i just want to note for a second that the aging retardant properties of humanity are one of the great miracles that puts us above other species.
Most other mammal species, including dogs, cats, camels, zebras, horses, cattle, sheep, whatever farm animal/pet you can think of typically lives no longer than 20 years, while for humans it's routinely 80 years, about 4x as long.
That, it turns out, is one of humanity's great strengths. We age significantly slower, and that includes a significantly longer childhood. Most feral animals grow up and reach puberty within 1-3 years, while for humans it takes at least 12 years (even longer if you wait to be socially accepted as an "adult"). This gives us more time to play, figure things out, learn, and develop. It is for this reason that we're able to pull off more amazing things than other species, because our long lifes warrant that getting a long, proper education is worth it. Because if we only lived for 20 years, it would hardly be worth it to study till you're 25 years old.
So, aging slower, and staying childish for longer, is actually one of humanity's great strengths. It is unfortunate, i believe, that we're trying to remove that human specialty in these days and trying to make people grow up faster.
Look, that all sounds very nice for civilized people. But childhood itself is a creation of civilization. Childhood didn't exist until we had the leisure to allow it. And now civilization has progressed to the point where children don't really ever have to grow up or assume care of themselves and others. Ya see em sleeping in tents on the corner. Still 12. No bills, no cares. Can you spare a dollar?
This L take is something a 12yo would come up with...
Well that's basically the premise of populism. Your policy is doing whatever most of your audience would first think of doing (with no subtlety at all so as not to seem too smart or distant to them) then you just ignore the consequences when they come to bite you in the ass and most people won't think all those bad things are a result of your own stupid policy, because they believe it was perfectly logical and flawless to begin with.
Unfortunately, nowadays populism is used almost exclusively about progressive ideas that are popular as a way to dismiss them because they’re not profitable or some shit.
Can we try populism+? We just get one guy, like a really smart good dude. Like a heavenly super person. We get them to look at all the ideas we have for stuff and tell us if there will be any consequences. If he says it's good, we do it. If it turns out bad, we kill him and try again.
We would need a name for this person. Something powerful right? Maybe "EMPEROR"
The average American is as literate as a 5th to 6th grader.
https://www.thenationalliteracyinstitute.com/2024-2025-literacy-statistics
5th to 6th graders are 10 to 12 years old, normally.
So uh... yep, mhm, the average American is about as stupid as a 12 year old, that's a bit on the optimistic side though.
Dude's theory isn't really wrong, Americans are dumb and immature as fuck, and yes the statistics exist to back that up.
12 year olds are on average a lot smarter than your usual GOP congresscritter. In fact howler monkeys are smarter than your average GOP congresscritter.
Honestly it terrifies me when I think about this.
I'm too stupid to be smarter than this many people.
Ya, that struck me as real truth. It's a nice summary, gets quickly to the root of the problem. If you are facing yet another moron, this elucidates what's going. People do not aspire to mature beyond 5th grade anymore. Adjust your strategies accordingly.
I honestly would take a fifth grader over most seventh graders most of the time.
Middle school was just a series of brutal fights where I grew up. Physically for the boys and psychology for the girls.
I’m just saying we should be careful what we wish for, though we really do need much better reading programs in schools.
My point was more about what you need to do in response, rather than the exact level of lack of maturity you are facing. I think modeling the moron as if they were a child gives good predictive power and suggests management strategies one may employ.
This is very accurate. In my twenties, I worked on myself relentlessly to try to become "grown up". Eventually I looked around and realized that hardly anyone else was doing that, and people twice my age were still acting like children. Then they elected a man-boy King in their image.
Try drugs.
The drugs just made me even more aware I'm surrounded by crazy children. Maybe I did the wrong drugs.
No those were the right ones, but there are also other ones that make you giggle so it doesn't suck quite so much. Gotta find the right cocktail for you ;)
I just had a try of elvanse at 50mg slow release yesterday from a friend, and damn it was heaven ((for a while, dose def too high for me, slept an hour during the night and had minor hallucinations (could be the slow release melatonin trying its hardest to shut me down)). Definitely asking the cannot sit still doctor to hit me with a 30mg for trial run.
Sorry kind of off topic, just wanted to share, might be finally getting the right stuff bros! Atomoxetine after 1 year at 130mg making me depressed so that they told me to drop it, but impulse control and short term memory already taking hits after a week off that stuff. Just dont want to feel empty inside anymore, but also would like to function like a responsible adult, so let us see. Man feeling hunger pangs again is kinda bummer, although gets me motivated to cook though.
This guy drugs.
Vyvanse was perfection for me.
Vyvanse almost killed me. Well, i almlst killed me, but vyvanse was the main factor for me feeling like a cracked out robot that couldnt eat, sleep, or talk to people. Only work.
Meh. A bottle of 2.5 valiums is great for me when I visit Mexico, but where I live marijuana and mushrooms are available in government licensed stores. No scrip. Just walk in and buy what you want. We got drugs in Oregon.
I too passed the self-imposed ritual. It has not made me happy, but it helped me understand why I wasn't.
For me when I realized I was more grown up than the adults around me, I realized I could relax a bit and not hold myself to such an unsustainable standard. On the other hand I still have lofty goals for myself that I still strive to reach so I'll pick up a ton of cool experiences along the way and maybe I'll achieve those pipedreams or maybe I won't but either way it beats just stagnating and aging in place
Twelve year olds are more advanced, make it 8.
Now that I think about it, the situation in the US really does play out like an unconscionable large version of Lord of the Flies.
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