Letting the Trump administration be in charge of disarming Americans seems like a poor move for everything and everyone except the regime.
Like anyone will rise up against the fascists. Most of the gun enthusiasts are siding with them.
most of the liberal or leftist gun enthusiasts i know take great pains to not advertise anywhere that they own and use firearms.
The fuck you want me to do about it, go door to door rounding up all the guns by gunpoint? We're living under a dictatorship and 150 million of us are completely insane
Let’s not pretend it was anything different Under any other president. Y’all are just blood thirsty maniacs. Not all of you but too damn many.
The fuck you want me to do about it
Not get all mad in a meme community for one. I do agree though that it ain’t your problem, so maybe you didn’t need to reply to this meme.
Heck you think I’m out here calling people out for calling British food bland. Nope just move along.
Sometimes they just announce the identity before they even know
That's going to be the norm for this administration. The only thing that "matters" is the very first thing to be said. All the media blindly run with it and the Reich wing media won't do a correction later on if it's proven to be otherwise.
90% of the time it’s maga
More specifically Christian Nationalists.
It’s the same picture.
Closer to 97 iirc
Actually, this wasn't such a thing until the Kirk shooting and the entire right wing decided in 20 seconds flat that every Democrat murdered Charlie Kirk. So they'll be getting a more fact based version of that for the foreseeable future. We're sick of taking the high road.
Nah, every school shooter have been defaulting as Muslim since forever and more recently trans, until it was found that, once again, it's a cis white boy.
The left pursues stricter gun control. Safety nets. Mental health services.
Conservatives fight to prevent those things.
You literally have two parties, one of them known for being neutral and looking for solutions, and the other known for deflecting and scapegoating... and you still have people not seeing the difference. And people think coalitional governments are good. We can't even handle 2.
I'd argue the US does not have a leftist party. When I was young, we had a centrist party and a right party. I've watched in my lifetime the right decide to go further right, and the centrist party go right to chase some purported 'balance'. (This was all Bush/Obama era, before Trump/MAGA entered the game)
We do not have a leftist party. We have the right and extreme right parties. And we only have two because of a mathematical flaw in the iterated first past the post electoral system.
And we might not even have two parties. The DNC and RNC have so many overlapping funding sources and so many behind the scenes organization that they could be seen as two divisions of the same team. Even if no explicit link can be found, despite the theater the two organizations have a healthy symbiotic relationship - each preferring the devil they know over any third party upset.
With all of the above, many intelligent people have checked out - the marginal benefit of supporting the D's over the R's just doesn't justify propping up a system that is fundamentally broken at it's core.
(P. S. I personally don't agree with that conclusion and will swallow my pride to vote for the best available candidate, but I think painting the people that don't agree as wholesale fools is a very unhelpful way of framing things.)
The left pursues stricter gun control.
I’m not opposed to gun control but take a look at Canada at the moment, one mass shooting from an individual who did not have a license to posses or acquire firearms to begin with and the government goes and targets sport shooters and hunters who do have the appropriate licenses? It’s been 5 years and it’s clear they’re removing all semi-automatic rifles from licensed individuals private possession, calling them “assault rifles”.
If I had a conversation with the Public Safety Minister it would go a little like this; If these are Assault Rifles that belong in the military, why aren’t we suppling our troops with these rifles then, why did NATO reject sending these firearms to Ukraine, why did Bill C-17 not prevent these firearms from entering the market for the last 30 years?
The Center pursues stricter gun control. The Left isn't opposed to gun control in theory but they encourage people to buy assault rifles and share 'Under No Pretext" memes.
(“Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary” ― Karl Marx)
Most people in the US already know the government isn't going to do shit about the shootings. In fact, any attempt to do so is met with hostility and constant pushback.
The culprit is American culture, and most people feed the beast that creates it. Maybe it's time to detach from Americas values and lifestyle.
As an American...
I would love to. Please get me the fuck out of here!
Honestly, with the church shooting, most of what I saw outside of here was people most doing the old arguing about less guns vs more guns and the usual pro-gun people complaining that making it "political" by talking about preventing such things is rude along. But also there is a political movement that is responsible for like 80% of such non-state violence (and also at least the one that publicly celebrates things like police and ICE violence). And I was immediately primarily interested in how the narrative about identity/motives would go...
What about the Epstein Files though
Listen. Nobody is releasing those files ever. Either because the Republicans over played their hands and realised actually there is nothing really here.
Or it’s bi-partisan and the party not in power will shout about it until they get in power and then go quiet.
I lean towards number 1, based on Occam’s Razor.
Oh look, another "both sides" useful idiot.
Fun fact: one "side" has no desire at all to curb gun violence in the USA. They just get upset when their stochastic terrorism backfires.
If the issue really is the radical left, why aren't there also issues in leftist countries?
America has a pretty impressive social firewall around it, we don't get to see what its like in other countries. The average median American voter believes countries like Sweden and Norway are nations of unpopulated wilderness with old-fashioned, quaint villages where people wear silly hats and bake nice desserts for tourists.
We're so far past that. We're at the brink of the military being forced to choose between following their oaths or obeying the administration
But sooner or later, hopefully, people will see the pattern. All the political violence is coming from the right... Every time. They just lie, every time
Trump just had a meeting with all the generals in the military which has never happened in modern times. We are in full blown dictatorship now and he’s doing military loyalty tests.
Well it depends, does the military fall in line or not
After Jan 6th, the generals got together and stonewalled Trump. Since this January, the admin has been trying to punish them and thin their ranks
But the keyword is trying. The military has been uncooperative at every turn - they've followed orders but refuse to menace the people.
So far, the courts have authority, Congress (theoretically) could reign in the other branches, and we're still having elections
No one has actually taken the throne. They talk like they have, but no one has tried to cross the final line... They're hoping they can get everyone to comply in advance.
That's the final line of defense. Will our military follow their oaths when the last line is crossed
I fucking hope so man
don't stop your enemy when they're making mistakes.
if the far right wants to cannibalize itself, they can go for it.
There was a cartoon/comic/image I saw back in the trump shooting. About how they realised the shooter was a white guy, and the audience breathes a sigh of relief saying 'race war postponed'.
I wonder what will happen if "the wrong type of person" is linked to a mass shooting, and what will happen next.
We got a hint of that with the Mormons. And the right always chooses to believe any shooter is trans so....
We will probably see a few more assassinations until people start shooting up protests.
Doing something about all the shootings means economic, political, and social reform and that would inconvenience Billionaires. So instead Democrats will blame guns and Republicans will try to ignore the problem completely because neither will admit that the exploitive economic system they champion reaching it's logical conclusion is to blame.
In my country the news mentioned that is was the third shooting in 24 hours. That is America alright.
It’s genius the people in power put the working class blaming each other while they profit from all of this.
...really need to do something about all this right-on-right violence.
A lot of these contests just a points game, but in this case if one particular side is able to dominate the narrative then they'll use it to actually hurt people.
So I get the game is stupid, but is a game where real people can get hurt.
Republicans*
Right cause it is important. If they're on the right we all get to smugly say " see you are assholes" if they're left, or right or human then they will enrich police and authority to come pull us out of bed at night for being nihilistic terrorist's
I mean one side is ready to do something about it. The other is not.
So there's nothing to do other than point out that the side that isn't ready to do something about it is responsible for the vast majority of it.
If China is anything to go by, ban knives too.
Don't forget about stones too!
A wild idiot appears!
Oh fists too! Those fisty hands can choke somebody!
It’s not gun’s fault so we have to create a world where people don’t feel the need to shoot each other by continuing to do nothing about it (except when Charlie Kirk catches a slug because that’s bad.)
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