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Australian beef has replaced U.S. supply in China since Donald Trump returned to the White House, funnelling hundreds of millions of dollars that have in previous years gone to the U.S. cattle industry into Australian pockets.

U.S. shipments to China, worth around $120 million a month, collapsed after Beijing in March allowed permits to expire at hundreds of American meat facilities and as Trump unleashed a tit-for-tat tariff war.

Other U.S. farm exports to China, the world's biggest food importer, have also suffered since Trump retook power. On soybeans alone, U.S. farmers have lost out on shipments worth billions of dollars during the current harvest season.

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[-] rayyy@piefed.social 106 points 6 days ago

"U.S. farmers have lost out on shipments worth billions of dollars"

Wait until this sinks in to the farmer's heads. Next year farmers will fully experience the rotten fruits of the current administration.

[-] prole 69 points 6 days ago
[-] dublet@lemmy.world 26 points 6 days ago
[-] jve@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

The radical left.

[-] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

they blame China

[-] KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca 55 points 6 days ago

Thanks to Republican education cuts and propaganda, they're dumb as shit and won't put two and two together

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

i've never known a farmer to stay in the business long if they were dumb as shit. politically naive? sure. growing crops isn't as simple as scattering seeds and waiting.

[-] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 days ago

I agree that broadacre farming in 2025 isn't something an idiot can do successfully.

However, these people did vote against their own interests, which isnt very bright.

Its unknowable, but I'm curious how many have actually changed their political alignment in recent months. Very few I suppose.

There as an article recently quoting a few that were kinda saying they understood the need for some short term pain, but they were trying to tough talk. Something like "we will take the hit for Trump but it better turn around in less than a year".

As though they think Trump cares about them. He's very happy to sacrifice them on the alter of his enormous ego.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

i mean i used to belong to a cult where they believed and very quietly taught that democrats and liberals are worse than the devil. there's reasons upon reasons someone might vote against their apparent self-interest and be behaving in a perceivably irrational manner, that's just the first that comes to mind. the social effects of being one of two open democrats in a deep red county are far beyond unpleasant. they might value their immediate social standing (even though they never have to tell anyone how they vote) more than the business they could have had were the US tariff/trade waffling bullshit not drastically reducing the markets they have available for sales.

i guess my point is what appears to be irrational behavior to an observer usually has a rational basis if you understand the person's motivations and preferences

[-] Entertainmeonly 3 points 5 days ago

Irrational reasons do not make rational decisions. They Irrationally voted against themselves. Even if they believe otherwise deep, deep in the core of their souls. Logic does not care. They actively demonize logic. Why would you try and defend them with it?

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

Irrational decisions are only irrational to people who misunderstand the decider's reasoning. The things you value more, they value less. Your value assessment is by definition wrong for everyone besides yourself. People don't vote solely based on how they expect to be affected financially, even though that's really the only assessment you can make that doesn't fail immediately due to the quantification problem. Since people typically vote based on unquantifiables, why do you assume that your valuation of said unquantifiables is correct for everyone?

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[-] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 21 points 6 days ago

Trump is already promising to bail out the farmers with the money from tariffs next year.

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 19 points 6 days ago

Yeah, It's what he did the last time he destroyed soybean exports.

[-] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 15 points 6 days ago

Create the problem and sell them the solution kinda guy.

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[-] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 days ago

Ah, so it's a Ponzi scheme then on top of everything else?

[-] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 7 points 6 days ago

it’s a Ponzi scheme on top of a Ponzi scheme

[-] drhodl@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

That's socialism, LOL.

[-] Wilco@lemmy.zip 15 points 6 days ago

They won't care. Trump will tell them it was Obama (because he will forget to say Biden).

[-] MyDogLovesMe@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago

And ALL that farmland will be gathered up by “Govt approved corporations”. Then they’ll produce the food after paying shit to the former workers, as well as shit prices for the land.

Like gathering up butterflies…

How’s your Trump now, bitches?

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[-] biscuit@lemdro.id 13 points 6 days ago

Most of them won't have enough critical thinking skills to realise what happened. They'll just blame whoever Fox or Tiktok tells them to blame.

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[-] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 days ago

the only thing farmers know is the price that the 5 giant beef companies are paying them for their cows

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[-] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 64 points 6 days ago

Have noticed Australia is also replacing the US here in Canada as well.

[-] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

Getting loads of amazing New Zealand apples in Canada now instead of ones from the US. They’re very good! 😊

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 52 points 6 days ago

It makes sense, Australia is much closer. Congratulations to Trump on being so eco-conscious.

[-] Blumpkinhead@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago

Seems a bit woke, honestly.

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

Australia isn't woke, it has crocodiles!

[-] absentbird@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Notoriously sleepy reptiles.

Also koalas, arguably the least woke mammals on earth.

[-] TomArrr@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

We even have lizard called a Sleepy Lizard. Cant get more Anti Woke than that

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[-] pupbiru@aussie.zone 4 points 5 days ago

in global shipping, closeness actually doesn’t make things necessarily more eco friendly: when you have 100 ships full of cargo heading from china to the US, they’ve got to return too… either they return full of something, or nothing

i’m not sure how it all works out in this case, but slowly moving things from the US to asia is practically free, in pretty much all regards

[-] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 9 points 5 days ago

I said it before... it is incredible how fast America's dominance is falling. I remember shortly after 9/11 when the idea of US market dominance failing seemed ridicules... even dystopian shit still had the US dollar be number one... but this? Fuck me...

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

now imagine for a moment - go back to that post-9/11 period - and imagine that our standing in the world and our economic dominance are both failing not because of some new innovation from our competitors, or climactic disturbance in politics or crops, no, it's all falling to shit because, and only because we elected a conman to lead the country, twice, and it's gone terribly both times.

oh and gwb iraq didn't really set things up for greatness, but damn, ten years of trump has run this country right into the ditch.

impressively rapid descent into shitocracy.

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[-] sadfitzy@ttrpg.network 3 points 5 days ago

It's a good thing.

America will be better off after being taken down a few pegs. They'll start trying again.

[-] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 16 points 6 days ago

...and its soy market to South America.

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[-] titanicx@lemmy.zip 23 points 6 days ago

Good. The tears of the ranchers next will be sweet.

[-] gonf@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago

So in the past couple of weeks, MAGA has been Make Argentina Great Again and now Make Australia Great Again.

I wonder what Trump is gonna fuck up next week so that Azerbaijan can swoop in to start selling to China.

[-] downhomechunk@midwest.social 5 points 5 days ago

He already rescued Azerbaijan from two brutal wars that nobody ever heard of. Hasn't he done enough?

[-] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 days ago

Australian here.

I just thought you'd be interested to know that the nutty is kind of leaking.

Thankfully they are very few, but we do have some MAGA Trump supporters here, and yes they occasionally say "make australia great again". Its so shameless.

I live in a place called albany, and yes on precisely one occasion I've seen someone say make albany great again.

We're having a local council election. About a third of the candidates are dickheads with no chance of getting up, and yes they include things like anti-woke and anti-DEI in their bios.

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[-] ms_lane@lemmy.world 28 points 6 days ago

RIP Beef prices here (Australia) for a few years.

Demand will outstrip supply and as always, we'll come second to the export market.

Hopefully this demand is the new normal and not just a bubble, otherwise it's just high prices for nothing.

[-] Affidavit@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

Don't worry, the next time we 'hurt the feelings of the Chinese people' things will be back to normal.

[-] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago

US cattle inventory is at a 70 year low anyways.

https://downloads.usda.library.cornell.edu/usda-esmis/files/h702q636h/nz807x85h/1g05hb55x/catl0725.pdf

Meaning we couldn't keep up with global markets anyways. Let other countries take on the ecological destruction that comes with trying to export meat. Every have a feed lot next to your water supply or a processing plant in your town? We need to fall back to smaller domestic market where local butchers are actually needed to supply their communities and not large grocery stores.

[-] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago

Maybe this will mean red meat will finally get cheaper.

Oh wait, no it won't, we will just lose all that meat and money. Taxpayers will have to foot the bill for Republicans like always.

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[-] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 15 points 6 days ago

This is the first thing Trump has done that actually could lower grocery prices.

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[-] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 15 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

"Good news, everyone!"

Trump the comical Farnsworth of the real United States.

[-] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago

Right after ceding the global ev market to china. The guy is a jeenius.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

i hear argentine beef is really good, but i haven't been out there to try it.

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago

In another year, when all of the post-tariff trade agreements are completed, we're going to be ceding a whole lot more than that.

Not that Donald will give a shit. He'll have added 5-10 billion to his personal net worth by that point, and that's all he cares about.

[-] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

Ah but immigrants....

[-] CircaV@lemmy.ca 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Ahahahaha America is the land of complete douchebaggery!!!

[-] Akasazh@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

The leopards will be feasting on farmer face (again)

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