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I like how the photographer still has an angle on his head
Like fuck the third image is clearly not the same person, people are so fucking dumb jesus christ
it's vindicating to know that there are white people that can't distinguish white people from white people...
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One's on a stage, the other is staged
Is there any proof that Xi's photo is staged, or are you just assuming people don't like him? He has overwhelmingly high approval rates in China, upwards of 95%, so it wouldn't make sense that they would stage such a photo beyond how they frame it (as all political pictures would have).
Exactly. Trump has supporters. Putin has supporters. Modi has supporters. Why wouldn't Xi? The people that dislike him might not want to sit down with him, that doesnt make it staged.
Yep, these kinds of claims never have any backing or logic to them, it's like they came in a dream.
I literelly don't know which "side is right" in this argument. In a country where there is propaganda and social media is strictly moderated by the government and not a lot of independent journalism (like YouTube or blogs even get pressured to shut down) and which has a social score controlling your life and thougs - how would one make a actually independent and fair survey? There is no democracy, so why turn against it if you have no way of changing it?
Of cause we are a bit brainwashed by the west and Chinas enemies and I think trump helped a lot to remove the elusion of a "good and strong america". But it still feels like the people are more free in the west, we have democracy and solid education and independent social media and journalism which is very important to me.
And its very impressive what China achieved in the short amount of time, compared to the west, industrially speaking. But socially (like what the government does) I really would not want to live there at all.
I feel like many people here on Lemmy have just the same black and white thinking of "china good, murica bad", which is maybe just as delusional as all the MAGA idiots.
Plus there are many other western countries that are quite solid and doing well mostly, which often get overlooked in this debate
Any thoughts?
I think you have a great opportunity to learn more about the PRC, and how socialism works in the real world. No, it isn't black and white thinking. You can find good socialist critique on Lemmy, I normally focus on exposing holes in the lazy critique or outright slander because that's what's dominant in the west. Socialist spaces already have discussions on China, and since we communists already spend a good deal of time trying to study it as well as communist theory and history, it helps elevate discussion beyond what's normally had in the west.
A good example here is your claim that China isn't democratic. This is wrong, though a common misconception. China has a comprehensive, whole-process people's democracy based on gathering input from the people and laddering decisionmaking upwards from the local level. The top of the CPC is like the brain, while the different regional and provincial organs make their own decisions and inform the brain. Chinese citizens are overwhelmingly satisfied with their democracy as a consequence:
There's a lot of western polling supporting this as well. This should come as no surprise, though, the west seeks to understand why the CPC enjoys such positive support so they can undermine it. A fun place to start learning about Chinese democracy is Democracy is not an Ornament by Xi Jinping himself!
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much cope, such wow
Don’t be naive.
^no\ u^
The Authoritarian on the bottom appears to be Chinese, while the Authoritarian on the top appears to be an Oompa Loompa.
Calling a state "authoritarian" is a childish distraction. All states rule through a monopoly on violence and the only difference is which class they're pointing the guns for. Western "democracies" serve the capital owning class. Meanwhile, so-called "authoritarian" states like China, direct state power toward working-class interests, which is why leaders like Xi actually enjoy popular support instead of mass discontent.
The binary is a fantasy. The only real question is: who does the state work for?
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bedtime is tankie
Is there a "non-authoritarian" head of state, in your views? Does it matter at all if said state is capitalist or socialist, or do you see no relevant distinctions between the two modes of production?
Is this one of those brain games where you have to find 6 differences between the two drawings? Let's see
- Fake tan
- Where are the Epstein files?
The Uyghurs have entered the chat
They quite literally have, the people in the bottom photo smiling with Xi are Uyghur, you can tell by the doppa hats and architecture. I recommend looking more into the situation in Xinjiang. The best and most comprehensive resource I have seen so far is Qiao Collective's Xinjiang: A Resource and Report Compilation. Qiao Collective is explicitly pro-PRC, but this is an extremely comprehensive write-up of the entire background of the events, the timeline of reports, and real and fake claims.
I also recommend reading the UN report and China's response to it. These are the most relevant accusations and responses without delving into straight up fantasy like Adrian Zenz, professional propagandist for the Victims of Communism Foundation, does.
Tourists also go to Xinjiang all the time. You can watch videos like this one on YouTube, though it obviously isn't going to be a comprehensive view of a complex situation like this.
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