Delivery vans are fine. The real issue are mom tanks and giant trucks that are taller than people
They're both problems. If you watch the video you'll see that most delivery vans aren't even half full. They account for less than 3% of vehicles in cities but a third of bicycle deaths. Due to the fourth power law, heavier vehicles do the vast majority of road damage, which we all pay for.
I wouldn't have expected this community to be pro delivery vans instead of cargo bikes. Europe is switching to ebikes because of good regulation and laws. We should also demand better in places like Canada and the US.
Sure reducing vans is fine and great but full on replacing them seems not very plausible
No one is proposing "full on replacing them". We can, however, replace a whole LOT of them like they're starting to do in Europe.
Sheesh, is this really the micromobility community? This is such a modest proposal. "Well, we still need cars sometimes!" is exactly the sort of nonsense straw-person you hear all the time that prevents any iota of change from the car dependent status quo.
Sorry I didn't get any sleep last night. Ignore me
Lol maybe both can be problematic. Why does it need to be one or the other?
Get that man a helmet instead of a hipster beanie though.
You know, I was thinking that the vans having more capacity and greater speed would mean they're hard to replace. But then I also just remembered that our local postal service does use bicycles and small scooters for their last mile deliveries. I can't remember what my postman uses though. XD
The freelancers who do deliveries for the ecommerce sites however, are likely to be sticking to vans or bigger vehicles, since having that capacity and speed is the only way to get a living wage out of what they do.
This isn’t a problem of delivery vehicles so much as a problem with city design.
This might work in NYC. Not so much in LA. Most places in the US are not really friendly to bike traffic and urban sprawl is an issue.
Contrary to its reputation, LA is actually one of the most dense cities in the US, and more dense than many European cities where this is already happening. LA is undergoing a renewal of public transportation and biking for this reason.
And yes, the whole point is change how things are now so that it works. Biking didn’t work in many places in Europe until recently. Paris and London has shown that massive bike infrastructure can be built in just a few short years.
Too easy to rob an e-cargo delivery bike than it is a van. Unfortunately, you have to plan these ideas factoring in the degenerates of the world.
Ebikes, bicycles, scooters, skateboards, longboards, eboards, motorcycles, skates, unicycles: Whatever floats your goat, this is all things micromobility!
"Transportation using lightweight vehicles such as bicycles or scooters, especially electric ones that may be borrowed as part of a self-service rental program in which people rent vehicles for short-term use within a town or city.
micromobility is seen as a potential solution to moving people more efficiently around cities"
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