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[-] kerrigan778 27 points 1 month ago

How exactly is this different from the drone strike campaigns of the last 15 years? Genuinely asking, seems bad but not particularly different at first glance.

[-] prole 24 points 1 month ago

They were happening in a war zone. We are not at war with Venezuela. Pretty obvious why this is different.

And no, I'm not defending Obama's bullshit drone strikes. Just be real.

[-] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago

You have not been "at war" since WWII... Or was it Korea? Every one of the conflicts the US has been engaged in started with the executive branch unilaterally deciding on it as is the president's prerogative and while congress ended up funding all that they never declared any war.

Trump is doing a lot of unprecedented stuff, but this is as precedented as it gets. Bombing a nonthreatening Latin-American country might actually be the most Presidential and traditional thing he ever did.

[-] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

Sorry but that is absolute bullshit, declaring "War on Terror" does not make a whole region of the globe a war zone.

It was bullshit then as it is bullshit now, check your biases.

[-] prole 1 points 1 month ago

They literally invaded two countries. We probably agree that they never should have been there, but to suggest it wasn't an active warzone is just asinine.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You think the drone murders were limited to merely Iraq and Afghanistan? (Putting aside the absurdity of declaring whole countries to be "war zones" even a decade after the invasions)

[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

They used to use faulty reasoning like they were enemy combatants or terrorist to justify this.

It is clear now they are trying to see if they can murder people for whatever they feel like. Right now it is drug dealing, but what is next?

Considering this administrations inability to see out of their ass since their heads are stuffed so far up there, it has people worried about what they will do next.

On the grand scheme of things perhaps you are right. Just par for the course.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Again, how is that new? Obama bombed multiple Doctors Without Borders locations, journalists, and even US citizens.

[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

They said they were collateral damage, but we all know the truth.

Also, I said at the end it is just par for the course. So perhaps repeating what I said in a different way makes you feel special.

How is what your saying new?

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

The problem is you’re doubling down on it being an issue particular to this administration or party.

These aren’t test cases- those were 15 years ago.

[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

The problem is you are a keyboard warrior who tries to fashion everyone out to be your enemy. The truth is you are your own worst enemy.

Blocked.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

So I guess now not whitewashing war crimes makes people keyboard warriors. LoL. The fascists are running out of material.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Who said anything about new?

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Exactly.

Obama ordered plenty of murders in the Middle East, including of Americans. These kinds of unilateral presidential actions are neither new nor unprecedented. They are powers that we as a people decided we approved of by electing and reelecting these men, and now they've landed in the lap of the worst person imaginable.

[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago

Testing to see what people will let him get away with so he can escalate to people not in international waters. So far, so good!

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago
[-] jaybone@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 month ago
[-] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

Who do you think gave him the idea

[-] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

If I were an American on a private boat in international waters, I would be worried about retaliation.

[-] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

only 40 more months to go.

this post was submitted on 24 Sep 2025
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