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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/49220518

They may be fictional characters, but they are voiced by real people, the court says.

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[-] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 77 points 1 week ago

I can't speak to Korean law, but this seems like a real stupid take. Actors are different from their characters. You can't damage a character because they aren't real.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 42 points 1 week ago

In a lot of places you can be sued for defaming a company brand, though. This seems similar to that.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 week ago

You can be sued for defamation regardless of the target, as long as you damaged their reputation with false statements. It's a lot easier to prove damages against a company than a regular person though.

[-] krebssteven@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

This is in line with korean anti-harassment laws. Seems draconian to us but is entirely consistent with what koreans have been living with for over a decade now.

[-] logicbomb@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago

In July 2024, the defendant targeted Plave in a series of posts - some containing profanity. Among them were comments that the people behind the avatars "could be ugly in real life" and gave off a "typical Korean man vibe", Korea Times reported.

Unless the guy said much worse things that weren't reported, it seems like South Korean defamation laws are draconian.

[-] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 week ago

So if they are voiced by AI or silent, we can defamate their picture as much as we want?

[-] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 week ago

For now, for now.

[-] HertzDentalBar 23 points 1 week ago

They look stupid, this is just corpo music for Koreans no wonder the courts protected them.

[-] Fyrnyx@kbin.melroy.org 17 points 1 week ago

Besides the AI bubble I'm wanting to burst, I want this cringe-inducing obsession people have over KPop to burst someday too.

It has turned some people into being unhealthily rabid over this.

[-] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 week ago

Let people like what they like. If it’s a fad, it’ll pass but until people are legitimately hurting themselves or others over it, just let people enjoy things they enjoy.

[-] duckofdeath87@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It feels really exploitive to me. I worry about anorexia and the psychological damage to those young performers. It's like the 90s in the US, you know?

The virtual stuff might be better tbh

[-] rezifon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

What was unique about the 90s in the US?

[-] duckofdeath87@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

No, but it was really bad back then

[-] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 11 points 1 week ago

I agree that the comments in question seem like nothing to count as defamation, but actual defamation of virtual bands should count as defamation IMO. They're as fictional as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorillaz is—every character is one-to-one to their real-life voice actors. Though I guess in that case you might be defaming the voice actor behind the character instead.

[-] Honytawk@feddit.nl 8 points 1 week ago

As long as someone makes money off of it, you can get sued.

[-] whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Darth Vader sucks egg salad through a hose to eat

Sounds like they represent real people is the reason

[-] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

K-poop sounds like darth Vader sucking shit-salad through a garden hose

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

Among them were comments that the people behind the avatars "could be ugly in real life" and gave off a "typical Korean man vibe", Korea Times reported.

I wish they'd reprint some of the actually "harmful" comments, because that kind of thing is just shitty online discourse. These examples are also pretty obviously targeted at the anons behind the group, not the avatars, but, again, it's no different from saying "I bet the person behind I Cast Fist is a fat and ugly man" - that's not defamation

But the court rejected the argument, saying that if an avatar was widely recognised to represent someone real, then attacks on the avatar also extended to the real person.

No, it does not. That's a terrible precedent to make. A character is not the person behind it, a character can live on without the original person behind it and can be interpreted by a different person.

[-] Lembot_0004@discuss.online 2 points 1 week ago

Rename S.Korea to Nintendonia. They deserve that.

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago
[-] Lembot_0004@discuss.online 2 points 1 week ago

I know. I meant another common characteristic, not nationality/citizenship.

[-] TheFogan@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

anyone know what the claim is to even count as defamation?. That to me seems like what should be the crux.

IE if the claim was "X's voice clearly shows he's dying of cancer." I could see that as defamation. On the other hand "X is summoning demons" that clearly would be fan-fiction.

[-] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I'm not sure about Korean laws specifically, but they're usually has to be actual damage to win a defamation case. If accusations of summoning demons caused them to lose business, it would count.

[-] SunSunFuego@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

plave touched me insppropriate when i was a child

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