Superheros also just preach that you have to maintain the status quo, never tackle the root of the problem, just violently attack the symptoms and that only a small few special people can save you, so everybody else just has to get out of the way and cheer.
While this is a good narrative to make about Disney if we want to hate on them, it's not true though.
The Disney movies for kids is almost all about not maintaining status quo and actually challenge it. Or being different than anyone else
Frozen and Moana are recent examples. Pirates of Caribbean for an older audience. There's many more.
Disney kids movies aren't about super heroes usually. But even Lion King is how you can't escape adult responsibilities and have to continue the cycle.
You forgot the peasants cheering the birth of their new predator
Also the very much incest.
Iron Man is about Iron Man realising that selling weapons is bad
Also saying you need to be a rich prick to get anything done
Captain America is about Cap beating up Nazis even though the government told him not to
And then giving an unbelievably hangout weapons system to some kid as a gift.
JK Rowling wrote a whole book series about how bullying is a horrible and self-perpetuating cycle, and now spends most of her time bullying a marginalised group
JK Rowling
No, Joanne!
I.e., I understand she greatly prefers (absolutely detests) being addressed that way. :D
Wakanda is a monarchist enthnostate that tortures outsiders and even shows outright hostility to those helping them. Their leadership is determined by the most violent among them. And this society is presented a utopia.
I fucking hate these movies.
I tried watching the animated show recently, and its basically Wakanda throughout history stealing vibranium from other civilisations because they feel entitled to complete control over the element, usually with large amounts of colateral damage and theft of deeply important cultural artifacts in the process. I assume there's some alegory I'm missing but they just come off as assholes.
The country is threatened by a villainous black liberation agitator and saved with the help of the CIA.
They might as well have had Abdel Fattah El-Sisi play the lead role.
Don't need to jump all the way to Wakanda. Thanos is an eco terrorist. Ultron is a peace activist. Magneto is patterned after Malcolm X.
The Marvel universe is the story of how a billionaire arms dealer and the US military save the world from deranged leftists. Disney heroes always fight for the status quo and the villains want to make things better (but also they're written to be crazy and violent). It's a billion dollar "I drew you as Soyjak and me as the chad" franchise.
Walt Disney was a major force behind the Red Scare in Hollywood, turning in his own animators for unionizing, and they've been terrible ever since.
Well the funny part is that most of the "heroes" they sell are not really heroes, just defenders of a status quo america that never really existed
I can totally imagine the avengers debating for years "well no we still don't have enough proof of genocide, the best action is inaction" while immediately go to raze an Iranian city after an unfounded rumor of a WMD
Wasn't that kind of the plot of Civil War?
Well, yeah, this is like saying Santa Claus isn’t real lol
Does Santa Clus support genocides?
Since Santa isn’t real, I would say the answer is a definitive, no.
Basically every mainstream media is "We can't kill the villain"
opens history book
LMAO
This is why I loved the scene in F is for Family when Frank responds to the 'be the bigger and better person and let go' by straight up punching and knocking his abusive elderly dad after meeting up with him instead of burying the trauma further.
People are looking for a left wing Rogan. But I think we have that with guys like Bur
Bill Burr is not left. He's a true centrist. The problem with America is that the right is so far right anyone left of them is considered left.
It reminds me of a meme I recently saw of a preacher in front of a bunch of Indians, and he says "Before we came, you worshipped the SUN!"
And one of the Indians says "Dude, the sun is real."
He has a point. It's ironic that the only piece of "evidence" most religions have is a book written by humans.
Any belief in the sun/moon/stars/whatever.... At least you can point and say, there it is.
But Christianity is normal and not crazy at all, and believing in Ra is the crazy thing.... Sure. Yeah.
I think it's all nuts. But whatever.
I have been thinking the superhero movies were having many fascist themes themselves. And their popularity was helped by a growing authoritarian movement in the USA.
The actual comics do not have many of the above issues, the movies reinforced certain themes.
I say this as someone who liked the comic books for many decades
I pissed off a lot of, supposedly left leaning, comic book fans when I told them I thought Tony Stark had a good point that the super heroes in the MCU needed to be regulated. They were doing too much investigating and acting on their own without any oversight to not make people nervous. Same with Justice League Unlimited.
At least with Superman(2025), the hero's intervention in world affairs was just a scaled up Bystander Effect.
Y'all see the latest Captain America movie? The one where the whole moral was "maybe we can still appeal to their better nature?"
TBH their "heroes" are pretty fascist too. Princes, princesses, etc. It's a total shitshow in terms of class.
The one who wrote Owl House (which got canceled by Disney because of LGBTQ themes) just released a pilot for her new show, a critique of what Disney has become
Roger Meyers, Sr., the gentle genius behind Itchy & Scratchy loved and cared about almost all the peoples of the world
But Disney has also been tearing down the imaginary heroes with movies like Captain America Civil War and The Last Jedi.
A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The most popular seem to be lighthearted clever little truths, hidden in daily life.
Here are some examples to inspire your own showerthoughts:
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