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Rivian CEO RJ Scaringe said everyone’s fixation on the cost of China’s EVs is wrong because it’s “that the technology is much better” and “if I were an existing manufacturer, I’d get less hung up on the cost and more focused on ‘the cars are actually better.'”

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[-] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 48 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Well yes, they’re subsidized by a country that has focused on increasing the quality and speed of manufacturing for like 3 generations. The US stagnated on that front. You cannot compete with a subsidized oligopoly composed of more skillful people.

[-] tyler@programming.dev 52 points 3 weeks ago

Just to be clear, the US heavily subsidizes the auto industry as well, it’s just that because we’ve bailed them out so many times the auto industry hasn’t cared to innovate in decades.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 5 points 3 weeks ago

Uh huh. So China's subsidies make them competitive and America's makes them lazy, I wonder if maybe there might be another problem in this equation.

[-] TBi@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago

China doesn’t bail out companies. It funds new companies to help them get started, but if you fail you fail. You don’t get bailed out.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

Plus when our companies fail the CEOs get golden parachutes whereas if their companies fail the CEOs might get pushed out of plane without any type of parachute..

[-] TBi@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Tackling out of planes is more like Russia. Look at Jack Ma. He’s alive and well. Probably he was smart enough to shut up and take what he was given.

[-] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 3 points 3 weeks ago

Evergrande looking like 👀

[-] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 12 points 3 weeks ago

Bad management. Just look at Europe. It is in many ways a US colony. Tesla which used the subsidies best, has an insane CEO and the main new product can not be sold in Europe. GM is basically not even competing since selling Vauxhall/Opel. Chrysler has been merged into Stellantis, so taken over by European car makers. Only Ford manages to do somewhat well.

[-] tyler@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago

Uh no. You conveniently ignored the most important part of my comment.

[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

I saw this guy talking to his assistant at a shitty hotel/resort and he treated her like a normal human. It was oddly comforting that CEO's could do that.

[-] lung@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

Damn sounds like it's time to trade up to a rivian

[-] burble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 weeks ago

I'm really hoping the R3 will be under $40k (it won't).

[-] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago

R2 reservation gang represent!

[-] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 1 points 3 weeks ago

Founding CEOs and those working for small companies usually are at least not-far-removed from the life experiences of their employees. In many cases they draw a relatively low salary and have a meager lifestyle compared to their most skilled employees. The pop culture tropes of the callous fatcat, ruthless machiavel, nepotistic bungler, etc are informed mostly by career CEOs hired by much larger corporations.

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