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I don't think Fedora is going anywhere for quite a while. I'd stick with it. If IBM eventually kills it, it'll be far enough in the future that whatever you choose now will no longer the best option.
i figure, I just want to be ready if something does happen.
Then you should just keep backups of your user data separate from your OS, so that you can more easily migrate.
i dont have anything big enough to back up to. my system has 1.5 TB.
If you are worried about corporate ownership and like KDE. Debian is a good stable Distro for your needs.
Since timely updates are an issue, specifically Debian Testing is a good stable distro.
Debian testing has way less packages
It also lags slightly behind on security updates
Yeah i run debian sid but i mainly do that to help with bug testing and have timeshift hourly snapahots. Stable with backports and flatpacks should be enough for a normal gamer user.
Probably no need to rush into anything. It sounds like the reorg is moving a data security team into Red Hat, and isn't necessarily enshittifying anything.
A backup plan is always good, but this could wind up being a nothingburger.
Legal, hr, finance, and accounting is now IBM, and IBM has noted job cuts as part of the cost savings in its profit forecasting.
Engineering, product, sales, and marketing are not making any changes - yet.
I would note that IBM is also now pushing its "enhanced AI" support over speaking with actual people, unless you have an upgraded support tier. Basic support tier can also no longer escalate cases.
I would agree in not needing to rush anywhere, but I would have to say this looks like the start of enshittification for sure.
i think this sums up what I was getting at a little better than I said it
Yeah, I agree. The big picture is concerning, though this latest instance just happens to not be a red flag. We're not enshittified yet, but it's a short jump depending on IBM's next decisions.
Considering Red Hat's core is development, it's not necessarily a bad thing to merge things like legal, HR, finance, and accounting with IBM's own departments.
The trouble is, once the parent company starts merging some departments, shareholders often push to merge more departments.
If the right people hold sway at IBM, Red Hat won't continue that route to the point of fucking up the OS. But that's a big "if."
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I ditched Fedora because I didn't like the way the wind was blowing. I mention because despite having a bias against Redhat, I agree with most of the sentiment in the comments. I don't think the future of Fedora is in any kind of jeopardy and if you're happy with the distro, you should keep using it.
KDE recently released their own immutable distro based on Arch. It's still early though, so maybe use Bazzite or Kinoite in the meantime.
OpenSUSE MicroOS is another immutable like Fedora Atomic, and you can use it as a desktop.
yeah ive heard about KDE Linux but its too early to use rn. hadn't heard of microOS
Opensuse tumbleweed if you want stability, rpm packages, and bleeding edge. They also have a fantastic KDE edition.
I'm definitely leaning that way so far, are there any major differences from fedora I need to be aware of?
I would guess yast, merlyn, zypper, no rpm fusion (?), but you get OPI, good security defaults like apparmor and ufw (which messes with printers). I like it so far. I’ve found most packages im looking for and it hasn’t broken on me once during an upgrade. Zypper also recently got a big speed buff that I’m aware of.
I've been using Tumbleweed for years, and it's great.
I don't think you have to change. But if you want a new hobby, try Arch. I got it just the way I like it years ago and haven't had to change anything. I picked Arch because I always ended up on their wiki anyway.
ive tried arch a couple times but I dont really get a lot of the options and its a bit more technical than I'm looking for.
The Arch wiki is useful not matter what distro you're on.
even when I was on like tuxedo os it was helpful
Or try arch light aka cachyos.
how much easier/less complex is cachy? it looks interesting but I havent tried it.
CachyOS is like Mint but for gaming and based on Arch Linux.
so mint on a better base and with a good de... I'll have to look at it again
If you don’t like bog standard Debian, you might really like Debian Testing.
It allows you to get decently new packages; I’d say typical lag is one week to a couple months depending on the popularity and/or complexity of the project.
I’ve been using it on my desktop for over three years just fine. It’s been quite stable while still getting new software versions in a mostly timely fashion.
Do note though that Testing means Testing; it’s not really concerned with being a rolling release distro, but with preparing for the next release, so there’s a few quirks:
- Sometimes, a package you’re using gets removed while its dependencies undergo a transition, forcing you to use the Flatpak.
- When a new stable release starts to get close (usually 6 months), they’ll start what’s called freezes, where they let in progressively less changes until release, after which things start speeding up again.
- As a general annoyance of anything rolling release-esque, software behavior may change over time, meaning a previously good config can suddenly break, and you have to fix it.
Personally, I’ve grown tired of Debian Testing and rolling release in general; while I still using Testing on my desktop, I’ve thrown Debian Stable on most things I’ve owned since then, and if I really need a newer version of software, I’ll just install the Flatpak or use a container.
Is nobody using Ubuntu (just wondering)? 🤔
I do and find it stable and comfortable, but for most those two things make it boring i suppose :D
I did for quite a while, since it was basically Debian with some extras that I found useful. (The PPA build farm and server, for example.) Then they started forcibly replacing native packages that I used with snaps, which caused me more trouble than I was willing to tolerate, so I switched to Debian Stable.
I still have family members using Ubuntu. I'll probably migrate them to Debian eventually, but there's no hurry, since their needs are pretty basic.
In my experience some packages are also broken such as podman
thats definitely something I want. i really want to be able to have compatibility with as many apps as possible and podman/toolbx are awesome for that.
Ubuntu's not "cool." Personally I don't care for GNOME or the theming in general. Also snaps are not popular. I do like the Debian base though, so I just use Debian KDE.
snaps! hiss
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It is either dead or dying
It is still pops up from time to time but isn't what it used to be
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Nixos
I think there are arguments for NixOS for a casual user despite the learning curve reputation. But there are also downsides to consider.
The pros:
- There is a good, user-friendly installer that makes it easy to get a working system
- From what I can see setting up KDE is pretty easy - there are configs online that you can paste into
configuration.nixwithout modification - NixOS is good for gaming with proprietary drivers and Steam - again it's a matter of pasting a few lines of configuration
- Like with other distros it's easy to recover if something breaks
- Unlike with other immutable distros you get a lot of options for tinkering with your system, and experimenting. You can dip your toes into the advanced stuff, going from casual user to Linux expert at your own pace, with the safety line of being able to roll back changes at any time.
- If you stick to the basics you can have a very stable, very update-to-date system without much difficulty.
The cons:
- To get the full safety of rolling back a previous point in time you need to ditch channels, and instead use pinned nixpkgs revisions. The best way to do that is probably using flakes - but whatever strategy you use you need to depart from the setup the installer gives you, and learn enough to remake your configuration.
- You'll find contradictory instructions depending whether they're written for use of channels or flakes.
- Going beyond the basics of installing packages, and using premade NixOS modules gets you into the infamous learning curve. For example I'm guessing that managing kwin scripts declaratively in Nix config might be an adventure. But managing them by hand the way you do in Fedora might be the same. (I haven't tried this, so I'm not sure.)
- There is some stuff you have to know, like if you want to run binaries that weren't built for Nix you want to set up nix-ld first.
- If you're building software you have to learn to do things the Nix way because of the lack of FHS. That's great for Nix fans like me, but frustrating for some.
- There is no graphical software center, nor automatic updates. You have to use the workflow of installing stuff by editing your config file, and get used to using search.nixos.org to find stuff. This is a pro from the perspective of having a stable system that can be rolled back to earlier states, but might feel less user friendly than a GUI workflow.
Even if you set up flatpak (which is easy to set up tbf) you're probably going to be managing flatpaks using the CLI.
It would be easier for me to recommend NixOS if the installer set up a flake configuration with more niceties pre-installed, like nix-ld. The next best thing would be a de facto standard flake starter configuration for people to copy. But like I said, I think there is a case.
What extra safety do you get by using pinned nixpkgs revisions? And how to do it without flakes (if that's possible?) I'm currently just using the standard configuration. Occasionally had to do a rollback without issues.
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Garuda has been great for gaming, super easy and stable. I landed there after Bazzite and it has been great.
might have to look at that
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