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submitted 3 weeks ago by schizoidman@lemmy.zip to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/48322335

The EU is planning to strike a deal with the US that would let the Department of Homeland Security and other agencies search European databases to identify people posing “a threat to US security,” according to a proposal published by the European Commission at the end of July.

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[-] Chais@sh.itjust.works 39 points 3 weeks ago

Don't cooperate with fascists, ffs!

[-] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 30 points 3 weeks ago
[-] mybuttnolie@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 weeks ago

because murica so cool we wanna make it happy

[-] hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz 26 points 3 weeks ago

EU has some weak pathetic leaders, but this is a new low, even for them. Bending the knee to the orange pedo is a very weak move.

[-] PanArab@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

Trump is European, specifically German, so it is no surprise

[-] hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 weeks ago

Afaik he’s half irish, so that makes him quite american, but it’s irrelevant really.

[-] porpoise37@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

I'm not covering for Trump or downplaying his border fascism but the document indicates this is in response to a requirement for the US Waiver Program that was drawn up in 2022... when Biden was president.

[-] Mr_WorldlyWiseman 16 points 3 weeks ago

Violation of human rights

[-] SitD@lemy.lol 12 points 3 weeks ago

14 eyes is bullshit and this is also bullshit, yet the populations in Europe stare indifferently like cattle on a farm and do not contest it. it's especially laughable considering the recent push for "sovereignty" in many states...

[-] porpoise37@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago

I am not an expert of EU law, what does a "proposal" actually mean? What is the journey from this document to it actually happening and what recourse do citizens have, if any? And why am I the first fucking person asking this question?

[-] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago

Here before Trump calls in SEAL team 6 on a Romanian anti-American vlogger.

[-] porpoise37@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago

In 2022, the United States of America (US) introduced a new requirement for all countries that have been admitted to or aspire to join the U.S. Visa Waiver Program (VWP). This program enables citizens of participating countries to travel to the US visa-free for a maximum of 90 days for the purposes of tourism or business. The new requirement entails the conclusion of an “Enhanced Border Security Partnership” (EBSP) with the US Department of Homeland Security (DHS) as a condition for admission to, and further participation in, the VWP, as a component of the already existing traveller information exchange requirement.

So the Biden admin got the ball rolling on this? I'm not surprised but I am perpetually disgusted that Democrats have gotten more fashy about the border than the fucking Bush administration was.

[-] Johanno@feddit.org 5 points 3 weeks ago

In theory not sth. bad. But I have a hard time to imagine the current USA government using that data for the supposed reason.

[-] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 31 points 3 weeks ago

In theory, very bad. In practice, also very bad.

[-] PanArab@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

Even if you pretend that only the Republicans are bad this is still bad in theory because they win half of the time

[-] VoxAliorum@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Specifics matter. I would be fine with an endpoint that given the passport/id card allows to do a basic check for any severe offenses - as often performed for childcare jobs, too.

Anything beyond that sounds bad.

[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago

Why? Who cares about "offenses" of a random traveler. Why do you trust an international crime db to be accurate?

[-] VoxAliorum@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

Most care about severe offenses. Trust is not binary. Please make your point or I feel like this is getting nowhere.

[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

If the offenses are note-worthy, they should be in jail. If not then no-one needs to be aware of them.

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago

They did declare the US data protection level as equivalent in 2024, so...

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