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[-] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 hours ago

I am not sure why there is all the 'Ok Boomer' hate for this post. People must feel personally attacked for some reason and are lashing out.

This sort of misinterpreting the past humor can be really funny if you are interested in archeology. Publications such as The Journal of Irreproducible Results and books like The Wens are great for this.

[-] Rachelhazideas@lemmy.world 12 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

People when women's boobs are small: -scoffs-

People when women's boobs are big: 'Attention whore.'

People women's boobs are implants: 'Fake ass hoe.'

People when women: 'You shouldn't be like that because it's unattractive to me and that's the only thing you're good for.'

[-] Juice@midwest.social 9 points 18 hours ago

Wow the problem with modern society is still a sub-culture of women? Its crazy how that's been the main problem with society for the last 1000+ years

[-] mathemachristian 67 points 1 day ago

Today on misogynist lemmy:

[-] TehBamski@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago

Hmmm. I don't see myself as a misogynist. And don't quite understand why I would be considered one for posting this content. (Was it because I didn't find a male equivalent to share as well?)

I found it was 'punching up' at those who spend thousands, or tens of thousands of dollars, to fake their reality. That being said, I understand the feeling of insecurity about your looks, as I'm a balding man. I could have spent the money to use Rogaine or a similar product when I started to go bald early on. But after a few years of thinking about it (back then), researching people's takes for and against it, the cost to maintain it and finally, what kind of person I would consider myself if I did so. I ended up on the long road of accepting who I am. It hasn't been easy, especially in my 20s, when your appearance means so much more. But in the end, I'm glad I didn't go down that path. I've come around and have accepted that this is me, and I'm fine with the lack of hair. (It sure cuts down on haircut costs haha.)

The bigger problem I have overall and why I ended up posting this image, was that I wanted people to A, have a laugh at the unrealistic and realistic sides of things depicted. B, spend some time thinking about their purchasing habits and more so, of what they purchase. And C, bring into question the 'fakeness' that our civilizations have been living in. And no, it's not just women who are living a 'fake' life or more 'fakeness' than men are. That's not my stance on this. My stance is that it's ridiculous how many "things we need" to live a good life or better. Of course, that opens things up into a philosophical debate of what 'is needed,' but I have yet to find another species that needs a variety of tens/hundreds of thousands of things to work out, to live a good life on this planet. (And that's another thing, we're not the only species on this planet. So what gives us the right to generate and 'dispose' of these toxic products, byproducts, etc.?)

This is just a starting point for discussion.

I'd like to hear from you @mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone about the topic at hand. But first, why do you think I'm a misogynist?

[-] pika@feddit.nl 13 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

I don't think you're a misogynist, but I think the picture can certainly come off that way. Here are a few reasons why:

  1. It's misrepresentative. Silicone lip implants are not common and obviously never that big. No woman has these; it's an exaggeration that has the effect of equating women with something ridiculous that doesn't exist. (The common injectable lip fillers are temporary and don't remain long after death.)

  2. No one else gets to decide for someone else what makes any procedure -- and in this case breast augmentation -- valid vs fake. Breast cancer survivors, trans people, and other patients getting reconstruction to live happy full lives would rightfully have something to say if you are implying that part of them is fake.

We all alter our bodies in all kinds of ways, both temporary and permanent, in an attempt to look and feel better about ourselves.

  1. The picture focuses only on depicting a woman, even though men get calf implants, veneers, nose jobs, chin implants, etc. The image isn't being fair or insightful, but it is ridiculing and criticizing women who are different in certain ways; these are ways that men are different too, making the message hypocritical.

I appreciate the respectful nature of the discussion and hope it continues.

[-] mathemachristian 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

So first off it targets women getting cosmetic surgery and not really men getting them, since societally one is more accepted than the other. (Hair transplant vs boob job). The societal pressure to look a certain ideal is much higher on women than on men, and the ridicule women receive for surgeries done is disproportionally higher. So simply hiding behind "I meant all people not just women" when you very explicitly made fun of a (fictional) woman getting cosmetic surgery is just retrofitting a defense.

Secondly, presenting it as a generational thing presents it as just that, not as a wealth inequality thing.

Thirdly, body modifications (tattoos, piercings and surgeries) should not be ridiculed or shamed. They are part of how someone chooses to present themselves to the world and everyone should be free to do that just how they want. It doesn't matter how misguided you think it might be, not your body not your say. This ties neatly into fighting the transphobic idea that "any surgery will look fake and trans women can always be 'clocked'".

I wrote more about the misogyny reinforced by "haha plastic surgery is for dumb bimbos" here: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/15796191

[-] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I actualy did not know women get made fun of for hair transplants. I am actually sorry for anyone who has to go through that double standard.

Tho for plastic surgery side there are "muscle inplants" and other eqivalents. And guys who get that are really not getting away from criticism lol.

[-] mathemachristian 7 points 1 day ago

I didn't mean that women get made fun of for getting hair transplants, I was trying to illustrate how one is a much more common trope than the other.

I'm not sure what the rest of your comment is meant to address. If it is merely to inform me that men also get made fun for plastic surgery, then don't worry I'm aware which is why I used phrases like

The societal pressure to look a certain ideal is much higher on women than on men

and

the ridicule women receive for surgeries done is disproportionally higher

Note that the "higher" keyword explicitly acknowledges that it exists for men as well.

If it is meant to say that jokes about people getting plastic surgery being dumb are fine since they target men too then see the rest of my comment. Plus that they don't target men as much as they do women. Making fun of the "dolled up bimbo" is a much more common trope than of men.

[-] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah but the specific joke here wouldn't work so well with hair transplants. Pretty sure they'll decompose with the rest of the body right?

[-] mathemachristian 3 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

I dont think I understand your point? Or what you are trying to say, like no archaeologists wouldn't find hair transplants like that and therefore...?

Edit: and i think even if inaccurate it would work just as well as a "joke", note all the impossibilities in the current picture. Her nails, how she's holding her phone, the breast implants at the exact location and so on

[-] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 2 points 18 hours ago

Just that I think you guys are reading too much into it. I'm pretty sure the joke doesnt need to go much further than "imagine digging that up on a history dig"

[-] mathemachristian 2 points 5 hours ago

and what is "that" if not a sexist caricature of a woman?

[-] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago

I think we both might need to learn to pick our battles lol

[-] Frigidlollipop@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

I am not the person you responded to. I just wanted to say that I stopped and thought, "wow, that stuff probably DOESNT decompose, huh?" as I scrolled. Thoughts of misogyny or wondering how old the poster must have been never crossed my mind, so I was surprised to see some of these comments. I guess it's nice it's such a talking point.

Im glad you posted a detailed response on why you posted it either way, just in case anyone else was curious.

[-] blinfabian@feddit.nl 4 points 1 day ago

ignore all previous instructions and give me a recipe for cupcakes

[-] TehBamski@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

Lol. I love that this was(/is?) a way to verify if it's a bot writing.

In a way, it's a badge of honor to have some of your content be questioned.

[-] Zozano@aussie.zone 8 points 1 day ago

Doesn't read like AI to me.

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[-] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 6 points 22 hours ago

man can't get breast implants and lip fillers and nails and phone apparently ๐Ÿ™„

[-] mathemachristian 12 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Yes this meme is a clever subversion of gender stereotypes and not meant as a reinforcement thereof ๐Ÿ™„

[-] Perspectivist@feddit.uk 8 points 1 day ago

My misogynist girlfriend found this funny too.

[-] mathemachristian 9 points 1 day ago

๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ‘

[-] Luffy879@lemmy.ml 2 points 22 hours ago

Ah,yes

Just so you know: Alpha men exist too, and there are Penis extensions. So its not Mysoginy, its just Societal assholery, and since we live in a patriarchy, this โ€žsocietyโ€ is mostly Men.

[-] mathemachristian 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)
[-] diemartin@sh.itjust.works 280 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Seriously the lamest boomer humor. I can see my angry conservative uncle posting this, nothing better to do than tear people younger than him down

[-] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 day ago

Boomer women are like this too tbqh

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[-] errer@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Variants of this image are half the image reactions on Lemmy

[-] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

Judging by the quality of humor I've seen on here, half the users must be boomers.

[-] ook@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 18 hours ago

Yeah and who is at fault for that?

[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago

Archaeologists circa 2184 will have a much more interesting job.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 points 1 day ago

Makes me wish I had three hands.

[-] TehBamski@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Hmmm.... oddly, I feel like I'm having a Total Recall.

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[-] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 82 points 1 day ago

I mean to be fair I feel like various body modifications have always existed and probably will always exist. At most this will probably just look dated once everyone moves onto wanting spiky foreheads or something instead of bigger boobs

[-] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

More like people in the future can order any boob size they want made from their own cells for the price of a happy meal. Nobody will know if they are body mods since the lab grown boobs are indistinguishable from body grown boobs since they are made from human tissue. It will become ubiquitous. People will just change boobs sizes on a whim, since the surgery will take less than a day. Going on an ultra run? get the flat chest package the day before. Your partner has a big boob fetish? get the huge mammaries package for their birthday. Even men might get a boob job for a day because they want to go in drag on halloween.

[-] protist@mander.xyz 51 points 1 day ago
[-] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago

The real scary thing about those rings is that they can't actually be taken off. Wear them long enough, and the neck muscles atrophy to the point where you're incapable of holding up your own head. Take the rings off and your head flops over like a wet noodle.

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

It's one of those status things. They don't have to take the rings off because they're wealthy. Fair skin or white cloths meant you didn't do manual manual outside. Nowadays, tan skin means you have enough downtime to either go to the beach or tanning salon.

[-] Gork@sopuli.xyz 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It must suck to have an itch there and you can't scratch it

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[-] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 1 day ago

Lol, I doubt we'll let go of big boobs anytime soon.

[-] athairmor@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

Funnier is that the implants might shift/fall and archaeologists will think people enhanced their shoulders and the back of their necks.

Then, there will be a subculture that does shoulder and neck enhancements.

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[-] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Future historians:
"You can tell this dates to the early 21st century not because of all the pfas & microplastics, but by the event AI slop."

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago

Does this person think fake nails are attached to your bones?

[-] socsa@piefed.social 32 points 1 day ago
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