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Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”

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[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 184 points 3 weeks ago

I assume Hannah Montana Linux is off the chart to the right

[-] BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org 71 points 3 weeks ago

Hannah Montana Linux, or HM/Linux as I've taken to calling it, is the sign of true civilization.

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[-] SingularEye 140 points 3 weeks ago

why is manjaro there twice? it's a horrible experience no one in their right mind would return to

[-] voodooattack@lemmy.world 101 points 3 weeks ago

“Maybe I was the problem?”

[-] SingularEye 90 points 3 weeks ago

they managed to make arch less stable, never update their ssl cert, and every installation slowly falls apart until it's unusable... sure, I'm the problem

[-] 30p87@feddit.org 54 points 3 weeks ago

You are, by installing it in the first place.

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[-] zloubida@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 weeks ago

I love my Manjaro. I always come back to it… but I may not be in my right mind.

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[-] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 132 points 3 weeks ago

Starting fights today are we?

[-] voodooattack@lemmy.world 61 points 3 weeks ago

Gotta dig in early before the pesky Americans wake up

[-] felbane@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago

Brother you posted this at the Americans' lunch time (or second breakfast for the pacific coasters) ?? They were already arguing and here you come with petrol and a lit match

[-] Bruncvik@lemmy.world 92 points 3 weeks ago

Mint, and I'll stay with mint. Perhaps I'm not a good Linux user material, but I just want something that works and doesn't get into the way. You know: a reliable, unobtrusive operating system.

[-] voodooattack@lemmy.world 42 points 3 weeks ago

And there’s no shame in that! Use whatever works for you and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.

[-] lung@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago

There is SO MUCH shame in that, the pitiful noob wont even learn to RTFM, and then I'll have no way to feel superior to them as I dip my beard into my off brand morning cereal #frostedfakes

[-] Balinares@pawb.social 19 points 3 weeks ago

Mint is just perfectly fine, don't listen to the naysayers.

As the old observation goes, novices use something like Mint because it's there, and it works; intermediate users use something like Arch because they want the control to tweak things in the greatest depths; experts use something like Mint because it's there, and it works.

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[-] lena@gregtech.eu 66 points 3 weeks ago

Meh, I'm relatively experienced and just use Ubuntu

[-] the_q@lemmy.zip 62 points 3 weeks ago

That's because you use your computer and it's not part of your personality. I'm reasonably well versed in Linux and I've used Pop for years.

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[-] BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 3 weeks ago

I've been using Linux since you created a boot floppy by using dd on the kernel. I use Ubuntu because I just want something that works, is stable in the LTS sense of the word, and I don't have to futz with. I've heard enough about Mint now that I'll probably switch over to it when I build my next machine in several years.

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[-] plm00@lemmy.ml 58 points 3 weeks ago

I want to see a graph where X ranges from "ambitious" to "I'm so tired", and Mint is at the end. That's where I'm at.

[-] otacon239@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

Same. Mint was at the start too, though.

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[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 57 points 3 weeks ago
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[-] callyral@pawb.social 53 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

i'm on NixOS

...and I've been on NixOS for mount stupid, valley of despair and, perhaps, the plateau of sustainability

[-] talou@jlai.lu 17 points 3 weeks ago

Agreed, NixOS is all states in once all along. Don't look inside the box to maintain incertitude.

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[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 47 points 3 weeks ago

Oh fuck of with this bullshit. This is why linux is not on more PCs, this distro elitism.

[-] Turret3857@infosec.pub 32 points 3 weeks ago

You're on linuxmemes not Year of the Linux Desktop memes.

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[-] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 47 points 3 weeks ago

This is funnier if you have mint or Ubuntu on both extreme ends.

[-] COASTER1921@lemmy.ml 23 points 3 weeks ago

That's kinda the case here with Debian being on the extreme opposite of Ubuntu. I don't see any benefit of putting up with the stability issues and complexity of other distros when Debian "just works". And once you debloat Ubuntu you just get Debian.

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[-] ZonenRanslite@feddit.org 38 points 3 weeks ago

Servers = Debian
Desktop/Laptop = Arch

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[-] janNatan@lemmy.ml 36 points 3 weeks ago

My guess before reading the comments:

"Everyone hated that."

[-] idefix@sh.itjust.works 35 points 3 weeks ago

The Fedora propaganda is getting annoying.

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[-] sunoc@sh.itjust.works 34 points 3 weeks ago
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[-] UnsavoryMollusk@lemmy.world 31 points 3 weeks ago

I don't really care about others but please avoid Manjaro they had some shady finances and apparently don't manage their certs correctly

[-] Adverse_Reaction@anarchist.nexus 30 points 3 weeks ago

This probably outs me as an old fart, but my first computer experiences were with assembly and BASIC intepreters, then things like COBOL, Fortran, and Pascal.

I remember when Bill Gates got his panties in a wad over people sharing MS BASIC and always tried to steer clear of M$ products from then on, although I did have the common misfortune of having to use Windows in several work environments throughout my career. Luckily, the last I ever had to touch as an admin/user was Windows 7.

My personal desktop OS history is as follows:

Solaris -> OpenBSD -> Slackware -> Debian -> SuSE -> Mandrake -> Gentoo -> Redhat -> Fedora -> Sidux -> Arch -> OpenSUSE -> Mint.

I stick with Mint because I don't want to spend my time tinkering on the OS, and it makes helping all the noobs/non-techies I have convinced to switch to Linux over the years that much easier. This is well over a hundred at this point, and you know who most of them come to when they have a problem. With Mint, they seldom have any issues.

The years I spent tinkering taught me a lot, especially on the rolling OSes, but these days I appreciate having a system that just works reliably, so I can spend my time tinkering on my own projects instead. I have VMs for other OSes as needed anyways.

Now you damn kids get off my lawn!

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[-] ayane@lemmy.vg 28 points 3 weeks ago

I am so sick of seeing this ridiculous diagram being labeled the "Dunning-Kruger effect". Go read the actual 1999 paper they wrote. The key takeaway is that the lowest quartile of people tend to overestimate their own performance, and the top quartile underestimate theirs. It doesn't posit anything like this graph, and this is just an ironic example of ignorance.

And second, I am so sick of seeing these ridiculous distro comparisons. Stop with this elitism, even if done humorously. People of all experience levels can be found using different distros, and they all have unique advantages, disadvantages, and communities built around them. Don't shame the great effort that people put into maintaining and developing distros, repositories, and packages. A noob can use Arch, and a master can use Ubuntu. Use what appeals to you, and be happy in knowing you can experiment or stick to anything. This is the beauty of FOSS and the Linux ecosystem; it's a great place for both tinkerers as well as those who want familiarity. There is no one true way.

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[-] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 27 points 3 weeks ago
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[-] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago

Debian is love. Debian is life.

[-] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 23 points 3 weeks ago

Ubuntu and Mint need to be repeated on the far right (the actual Sesame Street definition of "right", not Nazis)

[-] okmko@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Seriously. I feel like the people I know who know the most about computing have the least preferences for a distro, if they even use Linux at all.

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[-] Spesknight@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago

Full circle, back to Mint

[-] Una@europe.pub 22 points 3 weeks ago
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[-] hardcoreufo@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago

Why in the world is Fedora peak enlightenment. Any well run, simple, community run distro is peak enlightenment.

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[-] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I’ve started with Debian and I’ve settled with Debian, have had no need or ambition to distro hop.

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[-] tehmics@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I just spent 2 hrs last night in my Kali vm, trying to find an exploit on a web server. It was running Laravel 11.30 and vulnerable to a URL query to change the env to dev. So yeah peak of mt stupid is accurate

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[-] Texas_Hangover@lemmy.radio 17 points 3 weeks ago

Started with Ubuntu, happy where I'm at 🖕🏻

[-] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 17 points 3 weeks ago

Just wanna run an OS that works and doesn’t require reading documentation because I have a life and a real job

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[-] First_Thunder@lemmy.zip 17 points 3 weeks ago

Fedora on laptop, NixOS everywhere else, don’t really feel enlightened

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[-] Sidhean@piefed.social 17 points 3 weeks ago

I know nothing, and I'm keeping it that way

My system of choice is Mint, btw

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[-] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 16 points 3 weeks ago

Mint is my sustainable pleateau. I've used Kali, Zorin, Haiku, Plan 9, and ReactOS. I'm mostly satisfied with what Mint gives me, and what it doesn't. I know people don't always approve of this, but I genuinely used to like Windows. And Mint, generally, works like Windows back when it was good.

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