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Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”

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[-] SingularEye 140 points 3 weeks ago

why is manjaro there twice? it's a horrible experience no one in their right mind would return to

[-] voodooattack@lemmy.world 101 points 3 weeks ago

“Maybe I was the problem?”

[-] SingularEye 90 points 3 weeks ago

they managed to make arch less stable, never update their ssl cert, and every installation slowly falls apart until it's unusable... sure, I'm the problem

[-] 30p87@feddit.org 54 points 3 weeks ago

You are, by installing it in the first place.

[-] idefix@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago

My system I installed 10 years ago is unusuable now?

[-] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 3 weeks ago

"I donated money to them so I am going to use it."

Although not much, just 20 EUR. Not sure how much the bundled Windows license costs, but surely Microsoft has other ways to earn from spyware.

[-] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago

Nope. The developers are notorious. Look it up bud.

[-] zloubida@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 weeks ago

I love my Manjaro. I always come back to it… but I may not be in my right mind.

[-] muhyb@programming.dev 9 points 3 weeks ago

To be fair, it's OK. Just you might want to check out EndeavourOS when you need to format your PC again.

[-] idefix@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 weeks ago

I have both and I like them almost equally.

[-] muhyb@programming.dev 13 points 3 weeks ago

I think I've seen this story before. :P

[-] idefix@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 weeks ago
[-] zloubida@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago

Everything is in the “almost” 😅

[-] tazeycrazy@feddit.uk 11 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Wfh@lemmy.zip 33 points 3 weeks ago

This is perfectly normal.

It also works with a Gaussian: (Noob) haha Fedora go brrr -> (angry advanced) nooo you must use Arch/Nix/Gentoo/Slackware -> (Linus Torvalds) haha Fedora go brrr

[-] msage@programming.dev 6 points 3 weeks ago

Fedora fucked up my PC way more times in a year than Gentoo did in 3.

I'm not leaving Gentoo.

[-] Damage@feddit.it 1 points 3 weeks ago

I've updated fedora releases for like 10 years with zero issues, even went from one laptop to the other and dd'd three times to new SSDs without reinstalling.

I think it may be you who fucked up your PC.

[-] msage@programming.dev 1 points 3 weeks ago

It was nvidia drivers mostly.

And it was 12 years ago.

[-] Damage@feddit.it 1 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah I had lots of problems with Winmodems on Slackware 20 years ago, definitely a bad distro too!

[-] msage@programming.dev 1 points 3 weeks ago

I switched to Ubuntu then and has no issues since.

So yeah.

[-] Damage@feddit.it 1 points 3 weeks ago

But you said you were on Gentoo

[-] msage@programming.dev 1 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, switched from Ubuntu to Gentoo eventually, since Ubuntu went to absolute shit.

[-] Pika@rekabu.ru 1 points 1 week ago

Except Fedora is actually fine as an option. Though I had my share of troubles setting it up, and their decision to ditch X11 forced my hand to OpenSUSE when I went for it the second time. Had no regrets so far.

[-] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 3 weeks ago

Look, don't judge me, but manjaro has been the only distro to just work. I haven't been fucked by nvidia drivers that I know of, I haven't had any glaring issues... I'm not saying I disagree with the criticisms, but as a 'just use the fucking computer' distro, it's great.

[-] prunerye@slrpnk.net 7 points 3 weeks ago

Manjaro's fine. Most of their problems were years ago. If it works for you, don't listen to the mob.

[-] idefix@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago

Manjaro is awesome. The hate is not deserved and as you said, everything just works perfectly.

[-] Pika@rekabu.ru 2 points 1 week ago

As someone who ran Manjaro as my first Linux for 1,5 years, it's a breeze to set up and everything just works...until it doesn't.

What screws it is that eventually, over time, something goes wrong. Something breaks here and there, new bugs appear, and without Arch proficiency that is not really expected of a Manjaro user, it's next to impossible to track it down. So, eventually one has to reinstall.

I've been a strong Manjaro proponent back in the day, but now I see its flaws, unfortunately. I wish it could be a great option, though.

[-] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 week ago

Lol, that does make me wonder. I think I changed the boot process from silent to visible at one point, because it wouldn't boot if the silent option was enabled.

[-] Allero@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago

That's...very odd :D

Especially if it was GRUB. This thing normally just works on any distro, even the less stable ones.

[-] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah, it was grub. I changed it to see if I could find where it was hanging in the boot process, but as soon as I made the change it would simply boot without issue.

[-] Pika@rekabu.ru 2 points 1 week ago

Manjaro is a tempting option when you want Arch without being competent enough to confidently operate Arch.

Been there before. Had it for over a year for the first time, but quickly noped out on the second try.

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