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[-] jaykrown@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Looks stupid, I'd much prefer a more powerful tablet that's cheaper. Gimmick.

[-] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

While I get the sentiment, you can’t really fit a tablet in most pockets. While a tri fold phone would fit just fine.

This isn’t for situations where a more powerful device is needed. Power doesn’t matter when watching a video, or reading a book, or scrolling the internet. Sometimes you just need more screen.

I may be an outlier on Lemmy, but I explicitly want a decent trifold device. Specifically for the situations I listed. I’m not looking to use the tablet “mode” for performance hungry tasks, I just want more screen sometimes.

[-] UltraBlack@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

Wasn't their last folding phone super fragile

[-] wabafee@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Year 2026, Huawei unveils 4 folds smartphone! You can now watch 4 gooner videos at the SAME TIME! BUT wait there is more if you RESERVE NOW you get a Huawei's smart watch f2 now has TWO FOLDS! Imagine the possibilities!

[-] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 59 points 2 days ago

Hey, if we're doing quirky pones only 1% of users will ever consider buying again can you bring back hardware keyboards please?

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

hey, can you bring back removable batteries too, since we are at it?

[-] humanoidchaos@lemmy.cif.su 10 points 1 day ago

I thought capitalism was supposed to provide options.

I was literally fed propaganda in American Public School about a "study" where capitalists chose what kind of soda they wanted, while communists just said "yes or no" because they viewed it all as just "soda."

I'm starting to realize just how stupid the average idiot american is. Being raised and told you're from the greatest country ever is deadly.

[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago

I thought capitalism was supposed to provide options.

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[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 day ago

There were different types of soda available in the Soviet Union, just not as many as in the west. Want something truly weird? Try Tarkhuna. The bright green color is natural.

[-] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Good news! EU passed the law they have to be back in 2027 (IIRC)!

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Good news! EU passed the law they have to be back in 2027 (IIRC)!

i'm aware! i hope they come to my country too.

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 days ago

"nah, you cunts had your chance" -Blackberry.

[-] BlackAura@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

This was an interesting video / project I quite enjoyed.

https://youtu.be/qy_9w_c2ub0

[-] Psythik@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

For those with ADHD or just don't have the time to watch:

He bought a Samsung Flip with a broken inner screen, removed the screen and split the phone in half, and turned it into a modern take on a slide phone.

To do so, he 3D printed a custom mold to replace the bottom half of the phone, and then shoved a Blackberry keyboard into it. Designed a custom hinge so that instead of flipping the phone open, you slide the keyboard out from behind and it drops below the cover screen—which is now the main screen—because he used a 3rd party launcher to make it behave as such. That way the phone is fully functional without the inner screen.

The only thing he didn't do (nor did he attempt to), is figure out a way to move one or both of the cameras. Since the phone no longer flips open, the two main cameras are now both selfie cameras and there is no main camera(s).

[-] absentbird@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Tl;Dr: he cut a phone in half and gave it a keyboard.

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[-] humanoidchaos@lemmy.cif.su 7 points 1 day ago

I saw an 85" Samsung TV for $1000 at walmart today.

Kinda crazy (stupid) how people spend that much on a fucking phone.

[-] poopkins@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

I saw a Pixel 10 Pro with 128 GB storage online today.

Kinda crazy (stupid) how people spend that much on a fucking TV.

[-] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

The cost of that TV is heavily subsidized on the expectation that you connect it to the internet and it feeds Samsung data on you.

[-] humanoidchaos@lemmy.cif.su 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Just don't do that? The same argument could be made for their phones.

I think you're talking out of your ass.

[-] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Oh my sweet summer child. The privacy community is all over this and any economics course will explain how we got here.

Anyone making equipment needs to come in just below competitors in terms of price. How? By using telemetry and data collection to sell for advertising. This is seen as a subsidy to make the equipment more competitive to get it in more homes for long-term rent-seeking for income lasting years from every user. Same as with any smart appliance. The TV, connected to the internet, monitors what you watch even when you've connected by HDMI.

Can you just not connect the TV? Absolutely, yes. That's how low the bar is, that simply not giving the TV a connection and using 1 extra device in between is all it takes to come out ahead. That's a gamble worth it to Samsung. I have a Samsung TV, and that's all I need to do to come out ahead. But many, many people think the TV needs to do it all and just give it a data connection.

[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Whole that may be somewhat true, I don't think the magnitude of that expectation is that huge.

[-] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago
[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

I'm not saying they don't track, I'm saying the amount of money they expect from it is not as large as hundreds of dollars a unit.

[-] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

I used to run trainings on personal cybersecurity and explaining to people how much their data is worth. I've been paid to study this.

So, specific data about what you're worth to a company is proprietary. I can't find a link to a PWC or McKinsey report, but IoT device data typically sells for a range that's an estimate of cost per user per year. On the upper end, I've seen estimates of up to $50 per user per year. Low end is $1. So if the assumed lifetime of the TV is 4 years and a "household" is 2 adults and 2 kids, you end up at ($50x2 and $25 x 2)= $150 x 4 years = $600. So if Samsung sudsidizes the cost of a smart TV by $400, they're coming out ahead $200 on average, just on the subsidy. That's the kind of math going on for TV sales. Again, that's proprietary data, so short of trying to track down reports I saw years ago, all I can explain is that data monetization is a well-known cornerstone of business. Here's a quote for you about companies needing to know the value:

The exact same dataset, when sold to a financial services company, was being used to make multimillion-dollar decisions, so the data aggregator could charge $100,000. https://mitsloan.mit.edu/ideas-made-to-matter/what-data-wrapping-and-how-does-it-make-products-better

That's for companies operating legally and in the clear. What's crazy is that our data is treated sort of like student loan debt with them, because it's seen by them as debt we owe to the company and paid back over the life of the device. For criminals, it's pennies-on-the-dollar fire sales because nothing is guaranteed to work. So the data needed to steal your identity as a single line on a spreadsheet might only be $20 a person because the list of 10,000 records might only contain 200 winners. So you buy a $200,000 spreadsheet and hope to commit at least $1,000 per successful hit to come out ahead. which is a fairly low bar for fraud. Then the whole list is burned and you start over.

[-] TeddE@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

I personally am waiting for the OLED handkerchief.

[-] ScrotusMaximus@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

Comes out to $2,250 USD in China for the 256gb model. $3,500 USD in Malaysia for the 1tb model ($15,000 MYR).

[-] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago
[-] humanoidchaos@lemmy.cif.su 2 points 1 day ago

That's literally the audience these "boutique" phones are for.

[-] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

looks like shit

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Please pack a keyboard on the back of the lowest third, so you have a smartphone-with-keyboard if ⅓ folded up.

[-] BlackAura@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

This guy did just that:

https://youtu.be/qy_9w_c2ub0

Thought it was a really cool idea / project. Essentially a modified Z Flip.

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I admit i had to stop watching after 5 minutes. Do kids like videos cut confusingly and ...hyperactive like this one nowadays?

[-] Krauerking@lemy.lol 3 points 1 day ago

Oh, you havent seen the videos where someone literally includes random other videos on the screen at the same time cause they got bored editing?

Do they enjoy it? Probably not but hey they got bored.

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[-] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 3 days ago

Fuck everything, we're doing five folds!

[-] Domino@quokk.au 10 points 2 days ago
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[-] echodot@feddit.uk 17 points 2 days ago

Why is the fact that it's before the iPhone 17s reveal important it's not like the iPhone 17 is a folding phone all that Apple have a folding iPhone at all.

[-] MirthfulAlembic@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

It is because Apple has been dominant in the premium smartphone market for years, including in China. Huawei have started to make a big dent in that tier in China after eating Apple's lunch in the lower price categories.

This is a feature that Huawei brought to market before Apple, which was kind of a first. Until recently, they were just following Apple's innovations. It's early and I wouldn't want one now, but I wouldn't be surprised if smartphones-that-fold-out-into-tablets was the standard by the end of the decade.

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[-] trey_a_12@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago

Honestly, if I could get a phone that unfolds to a tablet size like that + Desktop Mode, I’d combine it with a portable keyboard and trackpad combo and be perfectly happy using that as my laptop solution. One cellular plan, large screen, and super portable too, not to mention phone controllers like the GameSir and Backbone for when I want something more gaming handheld-esque, Linux ARM64 virtual machines, and more!

[-] humanoidchaos@lemmy.cif.su 3 points 1 day ago
[-] trey_a_12@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

Meanwhile sometime in 2007: ”Dude, have you seen that new iPhone thing? So cool; imagine being able to have one device that could do it all! Even if it’s not the absolute best at all of those, it’s only a matter of time before it progresses! What do you think?”

Other dude: “Bro just use an iPod, a phone, and an internet dommubicator”

[-] dilroopgill@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I just want a phone that can fold out for reading comics, sounds pretty nice, only reason I bought a tablet was the constant zooming required, I forget to bring my tablet places constantly or just don't want to because its another thing to carry around

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