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Am I crazy for thinking this is power-tripping? (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
submitted 4 days ago by princessnorah to c/yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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Got banned from !energy@slrpnk.net for pointing out that it was a big reach to say that wind power is included in the term "solar energy". The mod referenced a temp ban from two years ago? Tried to say I've got a "history" of trolling and harassment, as well that I "doxxed" user DMs which also happened two years ago. I even, at the time, talked with the mod involved and reposted that comment without the DM screenshots. Like I don't have an entirely squeaky clean modlog but it's only a single page over two years? What the fluff? Like it's a two week ban and I could hardly care but jeeze this feels like overreach.

https://slrpnk.net/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=518329

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[-] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 23 hours ago

Looks like comment restored now?

[-] princessnorah 2 points 15 hours ago

@poVoq@slrpnk.net @SteveKLord@slrpnk.net If the comment removal was an overstep, wasn't the ban too?

[-] princessnorah 2 points 15 hours ago

Huh, yeah. Still banned though...

[-] Kasane_Teto@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

PTB, even if there was a reasonable argument for “Wind = Solar”, banning someone for that is not reasonable

[-] UniversalMonk@anarchist.nexus 8 points 2 days ago

PTB.

slrpnk seems to have lost it's way. It was cool at first, but I don't know what happened to them lately. They used to be cool and laid back. Now a lot of mods and admin over there have become PTB

[-] Blaze@lazysoci.al 4 points 1 day ago

Now a lot of mods and admin over there have become PTB

I've never seen @poVoq@slrpnk.net power tripping, what are you referring to?

[-] UniversalMonk@anarchist.nexus 3 points 1 day ago

They banned me out of the blue, even though I’d been on their instance for a while without breaking any rules. The reason they gave me was a variation of "you are Universal Monk." That alone makes me think they’ve lost their way.

Add that to OP’s situation and other things I’ve come across before, (though I’ll admit I don’t have the receipts right now), and it really seems like they’ve gone off course. Just my opinion, of course.

[-] Blaze@lazysoci.al 4 points 23 hours ago

They clarified their position in the comment below

The comment reported in this post has been restored

though I’ll admit I don’t have the receipts right now

For someone complaining that they use “you are Universal Monk" to ban you, that seems a bit ironic to make such statements without anything to back it up.

[-] UniversalMonk@anarchist.nexus 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

As for me not having receipts right now, I wasn't trying to prove anything. Just saying that it seems I have read things about slpnk not being as cool as it used to be. I mean, we are here talking about them in this comm because of it.

Others in this thread are saying that OP's situation was PTB as well, and based on the upvotes of my comments, I'm not the only one who thinks the slrpnk vibe seems to have changed lately.

I'm not a mod or admin who banned anyone in this thread, so no reason for me to have any receipts. I was just giving my personal opinion.

I'm glad OP's comment was restored.

[-] Blaze@lazysoci.al 2 points 8 hours ago

Making this kind of statements without receipts tends to be called out, as it's very easy to just claim anything about anyone.

[-] UniversalMonk@anarchist.nexus 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

How? I said I think that slrpnk has lost it's way. That was my personal opinion.

Want a quick receipt? This very thread. Most people agreed with OP and felt it was PTB against a slrpnk mod.

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 day ago

I am not the only admin on slrpnk 😅

But look at who you are replying again 🤷

[-] UniversalMonk@anarchist.nexus 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I was on your instance for a good while and never broke any rules. The ban came out of nowhere and wasn’t even tied to anything recent. Because the only reason I ever got from you was, “because you’re Universal Monk.” So yeah, that’s classic PTB behavior.

I agree with OP that their situation also looks like a clear case of PTB.

(For the record, I’m much happier here anyway and have been welcomed by most of the dbzer0 community.)

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

It was a mistake to approve your application in the first place given how you behave with your other accounts. When we noticed that mistake we took a while to discuss this internally with the other admins and community mods and ultimatly decided that we prefer not to be associated with you.

[-] UniversalMonk@anarchist.nexus 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

I just find it strange, though. I fit your demographic pretty well (solar power, off-grid living, anti-authority, anti-capitalist, punk, etc.) and never broke any rules on your instance, yet it still became an issue to be "associated with" me. I even had a cool-ass banner solarpunk graphic for my banner that I made just for that instance!! lol

What about my behavior caused problems for you? I’ve been on dbzer0 (https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/u/UniversalMonk
) and sh.itjust.works (https://sh.itjust.works/u/UniversalMonk
) for almost a year with no issues. I haven’t changed anything about how I act, what I post, or my attitude, and they’ve had no problems with me at all.

Even the stuff I became “infamous” for on .world was mostly election related, because I voted 3rd party (Socialist). If I made those exact posts today, they probably wouldn't cause any stir at all.

So I’m honestly curious: why can I be fine on these two big instances with no issues, yet yours had a problem with me?

I don't want you to think I'm grilling you or taking anything away from OP.

But I just find the whole thing curious, especially since I fall into what seems like one of your core demographics. No biggie tho, I found my forever home with my dbzer0 crew here.

[-] Blaze@lazysoci.al 1 points 8 hours ago

sh.itjust.works (https://sh.itjust.works/u/UniversalMonk ) for almost a year with no issues

You got banned for ban evasion on several communities and instances

[-] UniversalMonk@anarchist.nexus 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I meant, no issues as in no issues causing trouble for my instance. The admins of the instances I'm on had no issues with me.

Also, I didn't even post in most of those subs that were banning me. Please point out something that you thought was troubling and ban-worthy.

I loved the reason was: known zero-sum narcisstic troll/spam user. I added that to my user profile description. I'm not smart enough to know what it means, but it sounds badass!! LMAO

Lemmy is still way pissed that I voted for third party in the election. :)

[-] Five@slrpnk.net 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

The primary reason we decided you weren't a good fit for SLRPNK wasn't your ideas, but your chronic pattern of toxic behavior in advocating them. Bad moderation is not the only method of censorship; online bullying can make people disengage from a conversation in spite of arguing good points. I suspect you feel your actions are justified, and people have definitely been toxic to you.

The demographic we value most is people who use de-escalation in conflict and good faith discussion as tools to create a better world. As an anarchist, I know firsthand that these tools become more difficult to wield the father you stand from the rightward-sliding political median. We didn't enjoy reversing your membership, especially since you were transparent about your identity in your application, which I respect and appreciate. I also feel you used non-SLRPNK alts for most of your fights, which is still inappropriate, but kind of a compliment. I'm happy you've found a home where you feel you belong.

[-] UniversalMonk@anarchist.nexus 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

The primary reason we decided you weren't a good fit for SLRPNK wasn't your ideas, but your chronic pattern of toxic behavior in advocating them.

Ok, that makes more sense. Obviously I, and the admin of this instance and other instances I'm on, don't feel I'm toxic, but you are certainly welcome to think that.

online bullying can make people disengage from a conversation in spite of arguing good points.

Agreed. And people bullied me a lot and told me to leave Lemmy. I stood up to them and didn't back down. So yeah, as a result, I can totally agree that I'm not great at de-escalating arguments. I give as much as I get. Which I feel has me wrongly labeled as a troll, but meh, if someone starts something with me, I don't back off. But you have a valid point.

you stand from the rightward-sliding political median.

Just to be clear: I'm not rightward politics. I'm a socialist. Voted socialist. (Which by the way is what caused all the controversy, because I voted 3rd party in the election) I also created and I mod socialist communities, and I've the majority of my posts are pro-socialist and pro third-party articles.

especially since you were transparent about your identity in your application, which I respect and appreciate.

Thank you. My "alts" aren't really alts as for ban evasion. I use my same name on all my instances. So ban evasion isn't really a goal since I don't hide my identity. If I truly wanted to ban evade and have an alt, I'd just come up with a different user name and sign up wherever I wanted.

But there have been multiple times when someone signed up in bad faith, using my name to create drama, and I've written to plenty of admins to let them know it wasn't me and asked them to delete those accounts. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. I have no control over that.

But I DO appreciate your explanation, so thank you for going into details. Even tho I don't agree with some of your points, at least now I understand where you are coming from.

I respect you for not ignoring my questions or my gripes.

So thank you and best of luck to your instance. I still love the idea of your instance, even tho I'm no longer a part of it.

[-] Blaze@lazysoci.al 5 points 1 day ago

Indeed, but I feel the same about @ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net and @Five@slrpnk.net

[-] TabbsTheBat@pawb.social 56 points 4 days ago

If you think about it, oil is just rotting plants, and what do plants use to grow? That's right - the sun. Therefore burning oil is solar energy uwu

Seriously tho, even if there was a reasonable argument to be had for "wind = solar" banning someone for discussion about the topic is a certified powertrip clsssic

[-] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Best case they mean the generic green energy

[-] OfCourseNot@fedia.io 17 points 3 days ago

All the energy comes from the sun. Hydroelectric? Yes it's the sun the one rising that water up so we can use all that energy when it goes down. Nuclear? Those heavy elements only form deep in the stars. Geothermal? The earth would be pretty cold by now if it weren't for that shiny bastard. It's really the only source of low entropy energy the planet has.

Still, including wind power in the term 'solar energy' is a stretch.

[-] anaVal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 days ago

Except tidal. That one comes from the moon.

[-] OfCourseNot@fedia.io 6 points 3 days ago

Not even the moon could move that mass of ice the sun keeps liquid. But maybe other substances would form oceans idrk.

[-] Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 4 days ago

A two week ban because you said you think calling wind energy "solar" is a reach?

Yeah, PTB, no question.

[-] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 30 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Looks like a pretty obvious case of PTB for me...

The reasoning given is even more of a reach than "wind=solar".

[-] Ohmmy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It's really not a reach though, wind is created by the sun heating Earth. It's a bit pedantic maybe but it's not a reach, it's direct cause and effect.

It's not a reach to say something that is technically correct. To say something is a reach or a stretch is to imply it is not entirely true or is not precise. The sun literally powers the wind on earth, it is just as much a reach to call a penguin a bird.

[-] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 18 points 3 days ago

You have to go pretty far into pedantry... Which makes it a huge reach.

Its a valid comment to say its a reach, and also extremely valid to say this mod was reaaaaaaaccchhhing with their actions.

[-] Ohmmy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

No, it's a reach to say something isn't really applicable but it is literal cause and effect. It doesn't fit the vibe, sure but it's not a reach to say that wind is just solar energy, the energy that moves the wind is the sun. Just like if I said if I never eat I will starve it isn't a reach but if I say I haven't eaten so I will starve is a reach.

You might not like it but it is technically correct.

[-] princessnorah 9 points 3 days ago

I guess that means wave power is actually Lunar energy as well then 🤔

[-] Ohmmy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago

I might be mistaken here but I'm pretty sure the tide is lunar pull but the waves are formed by wind.

[-] giacomo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 3 days ago

def power trip

[-] AngryishHumanoid@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago

Oh snap I commented on that post! Literally every comment on it has been people pointing that out, I had a whole conversation with the OP being annoyed that people are focusing on that instead of the article itself (which IS fair from OPs side and understandably annoying), but that just highlights how stupid it is for a mod to ban you for it. Also shows arbitrary moderation that no one else got banned, dude had it in for you, definitely a PTB.

[-] princessnorah 9 points 3 days ago

Pretty sure the OP was the one that banned me. They're a mod in that community and it seemed too fast to be the other one.

[-] AngryishHumanoid@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Huh, maybe they were quick to get frustrated but failed to realize that would be the majority opinion, lol.

[-] Sunshine@piefed.ca 7 points 3 days ago

PTB! The moderator of !climate@slrpnk.net also has a history of power-tripping.

[-] teft@piefed.social 2 points 3 days ago

Like it's a two week ban and I could hardly care but jeeze this feels like overreach.

When you make a post about a ban a comment like this feels a little disingenuous.

I agree with the mod that wind should be counted as solar since ultimately it is derived from the sun's solar energy hitting the earth. Really though we should just call them renewable energy sources.

I also agree with you though, that doesn't seem like a comment worthy of a ban. I'd just wait the two weeks and not sweat it.

[-] lividweasel@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago

Like another poster said, oil is rotten plants, which grew from solar energy, so oil=solar.

Nuclear power plants run on uranium. Uranium is produced during the merging of neutron stars. So nuclear=solar.

Should we just say that all energy is solar? Or maybe we can just agree on some high-level categories to help differentiate between different concepts to make discussing them less confusing?

[-] teft@piefed.social 1 points 3 days ago

No, wind gets a pass because it is literally just recovering solar energy from the planet being heated by the sun. So it's solar energy. There are no chemical steps involved to get to the energy and it's renewable. When did I say that we shouldn't have high level categories to help differentiate between concepts? I only said that I believe wind should be considered solar energy because it is. The other types you're referring to are many steps removed from just plain old energy transfer.

[-] lividweasel@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

Well I, for one, will refuse to call them solar turbines.

[-] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Idk. Differentiating between physics and chemistry is kind of problematic. That turns solar, wind, geothermal and hydro into solar. But biomass for example is exempt since that one might grow plants with the sun but then uses chemistry. Likely entire photosynthesis doesn't count. Also charging EVs with solar, and some forms of storage magically turn the energy into non-solar due to the chemical batteries. (Same with hydrogen/fuel cells.) And it's debatable whether chemistry isn't just physics to begin with, as the distinction is fairly arbitrary...

[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Hydroelectric is also solar because the hydrologic cycle is dependent on solar evaporation of water to create rain clouds:

Next up on Seven Degrees of Solar Energy...

[-] princessnorah 14 points 3 days ago

I think a large part of what this comm is for, is warning other users that a PTB exists in the first place. I'm a bit annoyed, but I can cope with the ban, it's no skin off my back.

[-] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 days ago

I agree with the mod that wind should be counted as solar since ultimately it is derived from the sun's solar energy hitting the earth.

Idk by that definition we animal are all solar powered.

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