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submitted 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) by iii@mander.xyz to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world

A notable example is the approach to soft drugs in the Netherlands. Despite being illegal, the public prosecutor has chosen not to enforce the law. To the point that many if not most think they're legal.

This situation presents a complex issue to me: it involves a small group of individuals (the prosecutor's office) effectively deciding to disregard the broader democratic process and the will of the voters. When such things happen, I believe they should be rare, pragmatic and temporary.

What's your view on the matter?

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[-] DecaturNature@yall.theatl.social 13 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

The law should be revoked. I would not assume that the legislature is more legitimate than the local prosecutor who decides not to enforce. Often this situation happens when the legislature is captured by special interests who are unconcerned with popular will (and the risk of resistance), or by a national government trying to micromanage local and personal affairs.

[-] IWW4@lemmy.zip 16 points 16 hours ago

Law enforcement doesn’t make the laws. They enforce the laws the legislature creates.

There is a reason those processes are separated.

[-] gibmiser@lemmy.world 11 points 16 hours ago

One of the reasons immigration is so fucked in the US is because of selective enforcement of the immigration laws that occurred for decades.

Just fix the law or risk a new administration coming in and deciding to start enforcing the laws as you have to watch the chaos and pain.

[-] DecaturNature@yall.theatl.social 4 points 13 hours ago

The 'selective enforcement' occurred because strict enforcement would be much more expensive than what anyone wanted -- yet a fanatical minority was able to play games in Congress to repeatedly block bipartisan deals for "comprehensive immigration reform" (under Bush, Obama, and Biden).

[-] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 3 points 13 hours ago

This kind of thing can be considered a form of “checks and balances”. If one branch of the government passes a law and another branch enforces it, both branches have to agree for the law to function.

[-] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

No, that isn't a balance, because in that situation only one branch is deciding what gets enforced

[-] iii@mander.xyz 2 points 13 hours ago

Hmm. I don't see the balance here: the conjugate would be the executive enforcing non-existant laws, and the legislative to be able to stop them. That isn't the case.

So clearly, the power balance is asymetric, and lies completely in favour of executive.

[-] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 2 points 12 hours ago

In the US this is supposed to be balanced by the judicial branch, which can decide if the executive is doing a good job of enforcing the laws or not. (Not that I think the US is a good example of a balanced government, given our current state…)

Some countries have more branches of government intended to help with this problem:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_powers

[-] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

I think there should be flexibility in sentencing but not really enforcement. This kind of thing can be used for good or evil but I don't think its beneficial to have esoteric rules to be kept on the books for decades, waiting for the wrong person to abuse them. It's better to levy fines for sodomy (as an example) than to wait for that one dickhead to imprison people for life under the same statute.

[-] frezik 6 points 16 hours ago

In the United States, this has a racial component. If we depend on cops to overlook certain things, then they will be more likely to overlook it for white people than black people. Enlightened Centrists will say "whelp, they technically broke the law" without any further insight.

[-] TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

The 3rd season of The Wire try to explain that

For the case of Danemark I don’t know I’m not Dane and don’t know their political landscape.

I’ll can talk about Vancouver a little, in the first decade of the 2000 the gov (mayor office ?) gave its ok to stop prosecuting and arresting people who take drug (not selling it). They stop financing « criminalizing tactics » and for a while it work however as the years pass (and as I understand it) they slowly reverse track. Now they’re saying there is an epidemic and people are smoking crack on the streets unbother by the police (who seems to use this new problem to ask for more money from the city).

Don’t get me wrong I think that decriminalizing is the only way and prosecuting a « 1 consenting-ish victim crime » take a lot of time for nothing. What you need is service and specialized help.

[-] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

The action may or may not conflict with the will of the people. In the usa for example, the majority opinion on many issues is not reflected by our laws, such as marijuana. This leaves open the possibility of defying laws based on something like a moral objection. However, this can be dangerous because the actions of one may not actually align with the masses. So, each occurrence should be based on the merits and facts. I wouldn't assign a specific timeline to limit the actions.

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