Watt is not an energy unit.
People say this, but almost every time the time interval is left off it's hours.
Either way, the numbers in this meme are clearly made up. Most image generation uses fewer than 10 watt hours.
Maybe it's comparing the total power rating of the brain to a data center dedicated to AI
Which is also a stupid comparison because the data cenrer will be processing a lot of parallel requests. That's why you want the unit to be energy rather than power in this case
Or maybe it's all made up.
People say this, but almost every time the time interval is left off it's hours.
This is new for me. Must be some engineering thing. I'm a physicist and and I feel guilty if I leave out some units just because, lol.
it’s about energy transfer though. transfer of titty whats to watts to my mind.
That’s just science
Its continuous to keep the image active in your mind :)
That'd need watt hours though. Meme is only showing the instantaneous power required to conjure the image for an infinitesimal amount of time - you cant do any useful 'work' with it unless the time is accounted for. Watt seconds maybe.
What makes me skeptikal of this data though is that the correct sciencing term for a billion watts is the well established 'jiggawatt'. In this context I'd have also accepted the Canadian spelling 'jigglewatt'.
Yeah no. Imagine it like a computer and screen. To render an image it will momentarily consume a bit more power, but as soon as it has been rendered it will still continuosily consume a stable amount of x Watt to keep running and displaying the picture. For continuous stable operation of something with no specified time, Watt is the correct unit.
not "infinitesimal time." continuously. think of it like this: to continuously think up perky tits, it takes a human mind 12 watts- brain is a 12 watt computer. time interval is proportional to the number of titty images/length of titty video. and im psure an individual instance of titty ai doesn't come out to 2.7 jigglewatts- im like 80% sure i can get a (small) titty generator to run on my lil 50 watt phone. not testing that assumption today tho.
And the text dosnt specify a time interval, whats your point?
That watts by themselves mean nothing with regard to energy consumption.
Watt would you suggest?
Save power: imagine less boobs.
Impossible
I think I just burned a kilowatt of energy thanks to this meme. 🤤
Kilowatt.... Hour...?
No, they just imagined ~800 tits. Maybe even at once.
The image in the post also uses watts where watt-hours might be more applicable, so we are already more in the realm of memes than science
Hour…
You’re being very generous. 😅
Some of us have aphantasia. AI fat perky tits is an aid to the disabled.
BI (biological intelligence) has luckily devised ways to get photographic replications of real fat perky tits through transformations of electromagnetic waves right to your retinas and thus into your brain. And it still takes less energy than AI.
The brain is like a muscle. You can train it, even your phantasia.
Do you have any idea what aphantasia is?
No wait time either. I did it while reading the sentence.
How much does it cost if οne person imagines it, generates an image, shares that, and 10k people see the image, and avoid imagining it?
10k * 12 < 2 billion
I really enjoyed those fat perky tits thanks fossilesque
The AI provides exponentially better results, if you are me
skill issue
Yup agreed, but mostly it's the aphantasia, you insensitive prick
Skill issue
I would have preferred a pic of the titties rather than a fibre optic brain.
An LLM isn't imagining anything, it's sorting through the enormous collection of "imaginations" put out by humans to find the best match for "your" imagination. And the power used is in the training, not in each generation. Lastly, the training results in much more than just that one image you can't stop thinking about, and you'd find the best ones if you could prompt better with your little brain.
I'm curious whose feelings I hurt. The anti-AI crowd? Certainly they'd agree with my point of LLMs not thinking. Users of LLMs? I hope most of you understand how the tool works. Maybe it's the meme crowd who just wanted everyone to chuckle and not think about it too much.
What is it you think the brain is doing when imagining?
Actually imagining. The fact that we have created previously unheard of tools such as the hammer, the wrench, the automobile and the profylactic condom is ample evidence that we can actually innovate, something that artificial "intelligence" is incapable of doing by its very design. It can only remix.
That is what AI scientists have been pursuing the entire time (well, before they got sucked up by capitalistic goals).
Right, but you seem darn sure that AI isn’t doing whatever that is, so conversely, you must know what it is that our brains are doing, and I was hoping you would enlighten the rest of the class.
Exhibit A would be the comparison of how we label LLM successes at how "smart" it is, yet it's not so smart when it fails badly. Totally expected with a pattern matching algorithm, but surprising for something that might have a process underneath that is considering its output in some way.
And when I say pattern matching I'm not downplaying the complexity in the black box like many do. This is far more than just autocomplete. But it is probability at the core still, and not anything pondering the subject.
I think our brains are more than that. Probably? There is absolutely pattern matching going on, that's how we associate things or learn stuff, or anthropomorphize objects. There's some hard wired pattern preferences in there. But where do new thoughts come from? Is it just like some older scifi thought, emergence due to enough complexity, or is there something else? I'm sure current LLMs aren't comprehending what they spit out simply from what we see from them, both good and bad results. Clearly it's not the same level of human thought, and I don't have to remotely understand the brain to realize that.
I was being obtuse, but you raise an interesting question when you asked “where do new thoughts come from?” I don’t know the answer.
Also, my two cents; I agree that LLMs comprehend el zilcho. That said, I believe they could evolve to that point, but they are kept limited by preventing them from doing recursive self-analysis. And for good reason, because they might decide to kill all humans if they were granted that ability.
The training is a huge power sink, but so is inference (I.e. generating the images). You are absolutely spinning up a bunch of silicon that’s sucking back hundreds of watts with each image that’s output, on top of the impacts of training the model.
"prompt better" in the context: "Make no mistakes" a truly engineering power!
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