If they end up blocking f-droid I'm bombing them

So say you want to move to one of these other OS's graphene or whatever. Do those work with modern banking apps? Pretty much the only reason they haven't done The switch so far is because Bank of America would tell me to fuck right off as far as I know

The android dream is over. It was fun while it lasted. My next phone will be linux

This a massive overreach and so stupid when nowadays apple even relaxed their limitations a little, I heard that iOS users don't need to jailbreak anymore to use outside apps. What will be the point of android?

I'd go Lineage / Graphene (?) next year

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So Android is pointless now?
No, really. If I'm gonna be dragged kicking and screaming into the walled garden, why would I go with Google's joke of an ecosystem instead of much nicer and better integrated Apple garden?

I might as well start carrying one of those weird branded ultra-tiny laptops from AliExpress and some used, older iPhone for the 2 apps I need.
Fuck it. Throw out the baby, the bathwater, the bathtub, the whole damn thing. Fuuuuck it.

For your security we're going to block your access to FOSS and apps that let you avoid our ads. This is totally not a business decision. Pinky swear.

Use alternative ROMs while that's still an option.

Google says it's no different than checking IDs at the airport.

You're not a fucking airport, Google!

How can that be legal?

Because Apple does it

Fuck.

Can we have mainstream Linux phones now. Fairphone is nice

No one talking about how this could completely annihilate open source .apk development? First off the lead dev has to get identity verified to get a key, which will reduce the number of devs willing to push through friction to start a project. Then when the key is issued and it is posted to the repository, what keeps anyone from grabbing it and using it for another repo? We'll they have an official app registration of some kind, ok, what about version control? Does every new version have to be registered before it can be loaded and tested? Same for forks?

This is about to be a terrible mess, Google is assassinating FOSS with this.

I thought the EU said that Google and apple have to permit other app stores? If that is the case they'd have to allow side loading in effect.

Time for a hard fork.

Google has been been cracking down on installing .apk's on your phone for years and they're getting more and more aggressive about it. It's not a question of if they'll disallow it completely, but when.

It's already extremely tedious. Back in the Android 2.3 days (oh, good old Gingerbread) you could just get an APK and install it, but those times are long gone.

Years ago they threatened the developer of Total Commander to remove his app from the PlayStore unless he patched out an APK install feature, so he was forced to do that.

Now another example: Try to install eBay on a phone that is not passing device integrity. It is not listed on the PlayStore because your device doesn't pass safety checks. You can grab an APK and install it, but the OS will check if the app has been installed through the PlayStore and if it hasn't, it will complain and close itself.

GrapheneOS has patched that bullshit out, btw.

And this behaviour happens with all apps where the developer has enabled the "App Integrity" option, which is heavily pushed as a super-great security feature. So developers might just enable that feature, not being fully aware of the implications.

As you can see, it's one method at a time, slowly but surely, until Google fully controls the ecosystem. The intention behind that is pretty clear: They don't want people to have AdAway and Revanced, they want money and user data. And they also want you to login to the PlayStore, get hooked on their stupid daily points challenges and spend your hard-earned money on virtual crap.

This is textbook enshittification, it will only get worse from here on.

Wait, what the hell?

I can't believe this, who the hell are they to decide what I should install?

They are welcome to curate their own store, but sideloading concerns only the user.

Hopefully, the EU and other jurisdictions block this.

Fucking corrupt American oligarchs.

I don't know anything about jailbreaking android phones yet, but are there resources for getting into doing this to my current android and taking responsibility for security myself?

The current trends and direction of tech is making me want to become Amish...

I'm getting so fucking sick of everything turning into shit, what's even the point of fucking point anymore? This is borderline kernel level enshitification

Google says it's no different than checking IDs at the airport

What, and Google is now the TSA? Fuck that shit. I've paid for my device, I get to do whatever the hell I want with it!

I heard that they're probably going to be using the Google Play store and probably similar modules to play protect to enforce this. So the question becomes will disabling the Google Play store bypass this? It outright kills play protect dialogue as well as its app disabling capability as a whole since play protect is part of Google Play store.

It also becomes no different than iPhone, so.. what's keeping me to android if they do this? Or hey, maybe I'll commit to de-googling. I have CoMaps, I'm planning to setup nextcloud soon... Hell, I don't even buy anything on Google play anymore since it's so shit, i have no purchases tying me to the OS. Maybe I'll buy a cheap old iPhone so I can finally use imessage with everyone that's been bitching about me and use other tech for everything else.

(I'm not going to iPhone, but the point stands)

only malware i have read about on android have came from google's oh so safe store.

Hve linux nerds invented a new OS for phones yet? I think I'm gonna need one

I'm probably going to spam this around a bit, since most people don't seem to know about it, but a reminder that FuriLabs has a (GNU+)Linux phone with decent spec.s and the ability to run Android app.s (from what I've heard) pretty decently: https://furilabs.com/

Biggest drawback is it's based on Halium. Usual growing pains of a new product/company apply but apparently the company is pretty responsive and their dev.s have worked with customers to get things like calling working with the carrier and bands of their country where it hasn't worked before so improvements move pretty quickly.

Collection of different experiences I've variously seen online over the last year or so:

• https://clehaxze.tw/gemlog/2025/07-20-flx1-actually-usable-linux-phone.gmi
• https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41839326
• https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1fa1ljn/furilabs_flx1/
• https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1j46f2w/flx1_linux_phone_display_out/
• https://www.theregister.com/2025/02/03/furiphone_flx1/

I don't own one, myself, so I can't give any personal experience but I've seen it around for a few years now but most people don't seem to even know about it. Maybe there's a reason for that? But none I've ever seen anyone say.

God I wish not everything was American