still better than ios lol
I want this too but I don't get how you can call something like LineageOS dogshit.
It works perfectly.
I'm a desktop user mostly but my phone feels like the more polished experience
For sure. One or two super paranoid banking apps but literally everything else works great with microg.
I've even ditched microg a few years back.
Depending on your usage it might not be an option, but for me it didn't make any difference
Sounds like OP was using an unnofficial miui port or smth like that
still better than ios lol
Yeah android has termux, termux is amazing, I run emacs in it and have all the power of org mode on my phone!
Yeah I am thinking of just don't care about phones. Just the cheapest second hand thing I can get for calls, sms, ssh, vlc.
Maps would be nice, OsmAnd crashes frequently (out of memory?) on the tablet I got second hand.
Nah, /e/os and GrapheneOS rule!
I'm an /e/os user and all I can say is even though it sucks the least among its competition, it STILL SUCKS! Not to downplay the immense effort put in by the devs and maintainers of course. Providing a privacy-respecting phone OS to ordinary people isn't just a good deed, it's necessary for a vibrant and diverse digital society. But still, we can all strive for better.
Define, "sucks"
The complaints I see about custom OS the most:
My banking app works on GrapheneOS. It didn't even need any of the compatibility settings to be turned. My experience has been smoother than the Android shipped with the device. I barely use Google apps apart from yt and haven't found any obscure issues yet. Is GrapheneOS just really good compared to others or did I get lucky with my bank and the features I use?
My bank app doesn't work with Graphene, which is a pain in the arse, but not the end of the world. I mean, they still have a website I can log into.
Oh, I need mine to verify who I am. I do the other things on the website vie my computer though.
i never experienced point 2 or 3 in all my years of using them.
the problem for me is usually integrity api.
They're pretty common and the functionality is often not even obscure. Plenty of ROMs out there are unable to make full use of the fancy cameras on some phones without jumping through hoops because of driver issues. That's not an insignificant thing. I've seen NFC and e-sim being unavailable as well, which are also not very obscure features.
GrapheneOS has been working flawlessly for me for years. Highly recommend!
Check out crDroid. I do not know how it's like to daily drive it, but afaik it's highly customizable.
Yep, they put in a lot of effort into the security and open source stuff, but at least on Graphene, the bundled apps are severely outdated aosp apps, they don't even support material you, meanwhile current aosp apps do support it, as can be seen on Lineage. The calculator app looks straight from Android 5 or probably earlier.
I honestly couldn't care less about how the calculator app looks, and I'm sure you could find a more "modern" one on fdroid. The real problems are things like google pay not working (not a deal breaker imo, but would be nice to have)
Tfw your Phone has no ROM and the stock one is trash.
I am currently considering switching to a 3rd custom rom on my xiaomi since both of the ones I have tried while better than the stock one by miles, seem to have no activity surrounding them (one was last updated almost 2 years ago and the one I am currently on has been updated in october).
Just sucks that its notsuch a mainline phone rhat gets lota of custom ROM support.
Gabe please make Linux mobile phone.
We need custom hardware imo.
idk I enjoy LineageOS
Honestly I want Linux VOLTE so bad, the dream is to run sailfish os
I run SailfishOS and Australia mandates VoLTE now. It works.
Oh nice, I’m in America and stuck on Verizon for work. I really was hoping to see VOLTE hit the OP6T
Be the change you want to see in the world.
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Came here to say the same thing. I'm very happy with sailfish OS since the first jolla phone came out (10+ years). I'm certainly not a power user though.
I had a great time (save for bugs) playing with a Sailfish OS 2(?) phone way back. Glad they're still kicking.
Costs so much though. Thinking about what a phone even needs to do for me, what other handheld devices could work instead?
Steamdeck perhaps? Then a brick phone for calls/sms. Not too sure what would work as a lower spec and cheaper alternative to a Steamdeck and runs Linux though.
But Linux for mobile exists, it is just not popular. For instance you can install Ubuntu Touch on certain phones.
This one right here, officer! They did it!
Yeah, like the Nexus 5. Not anything you'd want to actually use today.
I looked into Ubuntu Touch last week as a potential alternative to Graphene on my Pixel 9.
The most recent Pixel it supports is the 3.
So Graphene it is then...
Graphene so far is the slickest one.
That's still way newer than I thought. I guess they started updating it again.
If only Arch Linux ARM existed... ;(
I don't expect Arch Linux ARM to have wider support than Ubuntu Touch or postmarketOS.
The later 2 projects aim to support Android devices, while (based on my understanding) Arch Linux ARM mainly targets SBCs (single board computers), like Raspberry Pi.
Arch Linux ARM nowadays, probably, also serves as a base for Asahi, but this does not help with Android device compatibility.
I’m only using iOS because android is worse. Neither of them make me happy. IOS is just less terrible than Android.
The problem with a Linux phone is that there’s no market for it, and developing one is only possible if you fundamentally change what a Linux phone means thereby ruining it but getting profitability and therefore carrier support and manufacturer profitability.
We don’t get what we want. They do.
Phosh has a great UI, I genuinely love it -- I'm just not thrilled by my phone's battery life when running any mobile linux
Make a /system symlink and copy the drivers over?
different kernel version, no?
Oh, right. The main problem slipped my mind.
I mean you might be right, android kernels aren't that far off mainline these days. Copying the dtb might genuinely work
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