Sadly, as always, Lisp is put in parenthesis and doesn't show here
SQL? Toy?
The hardest hitting rage bait I've seen all year
This is a very bad chart:
Downvoting.
This chart is easier to understand if you make the following substitutions:
After understanding this construction, I fail to find any humor in this.
Why is ECMAScript here and not JavaScript?
Among other things, "JavaScript" is a trademark of Oracle.
I fail to find any humour in this. I think the humour are the labels (Toy, System, Nu, Obsolete), which are however incorrect and misleading.
Among other things, "JavaScript" is a trademark of Oracle.
Does this prevent it from being used in memes?
Assembly being obsolete has to be the funniest joke in here. It fundamentally never will be even if its use is niche
...and C++ being obsolete is the second funniest.
It is clearly surpassed by C though this chart seems to have missed that fact.
How is C or assembly obsolete when they are literally everywhere is beyond me
C is more obsolete than Rust. Coding directly in assembly is rare. Beyond that it's more subjective.
The C which is an integral part of every linux kernel on every computer and server running linux as the OS and all the embedded systems everywhere and almost all the performance critical parts of python libraries?
I won't have much to say about assembly since don't use it but far as I know low level parts of OS such as bootloader likely still uses assembly not to also mention embedded systems.
As long as both of these exist in embedded systems, it is just statistically weird to call it obsolete even in regards to other languages.
For instance data scientists majorly use python, but python critically depends on C and devices they use critically depend on C and assembly. Can you then really say what they do does not depend on C and assembly and python is more widely used?
So, the Linux kernel is already partially moved over to Rust. It's probably in the Python ecosystem too, although I can't actually say.
More obsolete was a deliberate word choice. Hell, even COBOL is still used.
yea but Rust is not above %80 of the languages in the chart. It is not just a matter of C being more obsolete than Rust it is more like C being one of the most obsolete in the chart. Can't call it that until it is replaced %80 by something else in systems that exists world-wide and everywhere.
How are you defining "Obsolete" vs "Nu"?
e.g. Brainfuck from 1993 is all the way to Nu, while D (2001) and Rust (2012) are less "Nu"?
Also, what the hell is "nu" supposed to mean?
Nude 😳
OP probably lived through the mid-1990s rise of “nu-metal” bands like Linkin Park
Yes, SQL is but a toy language. It probably will never make it into production.
AKA: How to annoy a bunch of computer nerds very quickly....
Make one for Linux distros next!!!
By being wildly wrong you mean?
You say "wildly wrong", they say "incentivizing engagement".
So rage bait?
Precisely. Getting people upset is the foremost technique to farm engagement on social media. Sites such as Facebook even deliberately altered their algorithms to show content that will anger readers because it works so well to keep them invested.
Engagement bait is omnipresent and really obvious once you learn to spot it - even something as innocuous as one or two "accidental" typos in a meme to get people into the comments section.
And I bet this is based in opinion and not any sort of scientific understanding because you put assembly as an obsolete language…
If everything written in those "obsolete" languages suddenly disappeared, the whole world would go dark.
That doesn't stop them from being obsolete, it just means that people who have the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" mentality can get fucked.
Yeah, the axes on this are weird, why would the opposite of a systems language be a toy language? And why is Lua, a very popular and commonly used language in tons of stuff, a "toy"? And Lua is a nu Lang? It's older than Java, maybe it just feels newer because each release isn't necessarily backwards compatible?
Also Python as a toy lang and somehow more "nu" than Java despite Java being younger?
It wouldn’t be a good compass if nobody had strong issues with it:
Edit: before people tell me there’s already ‘obsolete’ on the graph, no, there’s loads of obsolete languages that are still useful, and many more new languages that are either built for fun or not used for sad or good reasons.
Edit2: I’m also halfway sure that brainfuck is older than rust (but don’t wanna look it up). But if that’s true your axis mean several things at once anyway and you should feel bad (not really though).
I literally opened it looking for Lisp and dismissed the whole thing when I realized its not there
How is cobol toy wasn't it made for military?
How is Lua further down along the Nu Lang axis than Go, Rust and Nim?
I don’t get what toy lang means?
For playing with, rather than 'serious' projects
Curious how you decided what goes where, I'd hardly consider SQL a "Toy Lang" as opposed to a "System Lang"
Did you just note Typescript, a superset of JavaScript that needs to be compiled into it, as closer to the system?
Also does it technically constitute a language? That feels like a stretch too.
ngl I'm pretty mad right now
COBOL is about as far from a "toy" as I can imagine. Almost everything corpo runs on it at some level.
And almost no one writes it for fun.
i like how you've managed to include just a single non-procedural language, and it's the most interesting one by far, and you're calling it obsolete. says a lot.
Fortran is NOT obsolete you take that shit back
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