105
The world is on fire, and the home country of these IPs is falling into a dictatorship. No one is stress watching movies, its not fun. Also, we're broke and we're about to sink into another recession.
This is, IMHO, why Superman is doing so well. It's the type of unapologetically wholesome shit I didn't know my soul was so desperate for.
EDIT: My wife just called it "hope porn" and I think it fits.
I've been burnt out on superhero stuff for a bit, and had zero interest in checking out Superman as the DC stuff has been of no interest to me since the Nolan Batman movies.
I put it on the other night for background noise, but it got my attention right from the start, and I really enjoyed it.
The biggest thing for me was when he saved that squirrel mid-fight. The guy has everyone trying to kill him and the city, and he loves everything about Earth so much he can't see any living thing suffer.
There is so much unspoken collateral damage in all these action movies, and Superman wouldn't even let a squirrel suffer for actions linked to him.
I want someone to look out for me, dang it. Where's our Superman?
They tried to cut the squirrel scene after it tested badly but James kept it in because it’s so Superman
I just went back and watched the scene. The squirrel part is so quick compared to the other rescues like the dog in that same scene.
The dog got a lot more direct attention, and that makes sense since a lot of people have or really like dogs. But I've never seen anything where the hero stops to save an animal nobody would ever even put in a scene.
It wasn't played up like a bit like the dog, and that made it feel like a more natural thing this Superman would do. It turned a throwaway gag into a bit of character development that in 3 seconds showed us this Superman would put himself on the line to save any life.
It is a little hard to watch a movie where the hero saves the day from evil when you have a villain in the white house.
Yeah, they might do good making a new punisher who saves the Whitehouse violently. Everyone loves an underdog revenge movie.
Fantastic Four have never been a very profitable property
20th Century Fox kinda destroyed any hype for new Fantastic Four movies.
I mean I really wanted to see it but I wanted to see Superman a lot more
I do think they should have delayed Fantastic Four until at least mid August if not later. Maybe even save it for 2026.
2023 had three MCU films, 2024 had just one MCU film, 2025 was back to three, 2026 will have just two. There was plenty of space for this film, to put it right after Superman was probably a mistake.
Haven't seen Four yet but really enjoyed Superman.
Fantastic Four was way better, it's not even close. The only thing that didn't feel forced in Superman was the fight scenes.
I fell asleep during Fantastic Four. It was boring as hell.
Didn't see Superman though so I can't compare it.
Another thing not explored in this article is the 100 days to streaming rollout that we've seen.
A film comes out, ~60 days later it hits Premium VOD, ~30 days later a physical release, shortly after it hits Disney+.
A lot of people are willing to wait for a number of different reasons, economic, hype, quality, etc
For me it’s health related reasons. Even if I wanted to, I can’t go to a cinema to watch a movie.
That’s why I don’t mind paying for premium VODs (that’s the closest I can get to real cinema) but it’s just cruel that in this COVID-era of ours films are still released cinema first with a huge delay until the digital release.
Just let me watch it at home same day it releases for everyone else, I’m willing to pay for it.
Bit off topic but I wanted to watch a YT video about James Bond and like 30 seconds in the guy launches into spoilers for the new Mission Impossible movie. Had to close that tab real fast like; shit like this could be prevented.
This drop-off tracks with the brand. I say this as someone who likes the F4, they just don't have a broad appeal with general audiences that other comic brands have. They're a property that only comic nerds care about and always have been.
Edit: They also had to complete with Superman. The F4 have never been able to compete with Superman.
I'm already two movies behind and yeah, I opted for Superman as well with zero regrets.
I know I'll see Fantastic Four on Disney+ eventually, and that's Disney's main problem.
You'll see Superman on HBO in the same time frame.
This honestly is also how I feel. For decades I hear comic books fans rave about how great F4 is, but me being a tangential fan (only read DC growing up) I can name many of Marvel’s storylines from the comic books, but I can’t really name a storyline from the the Fantastic Four books. I know there’s something about a future foundation, but I never knew what it was.
Future Foundation is pretty much the definitive modern F4 story. Hickmens run as a whole is peak.
A problem with the F4 is that their golden age of stories was back in the Silver Age of Comic Books. They were a cornerstone a lot of the early world-building of the Marvel Universe. Their lasting legacy has been the characters and ideas these stories introduced to the Marvel universe: Dr Doom, Galactus, The Silver Surfer, Black Panther, The Negative Zone, ect. Marvel has long struggled to adapt the team to the modern era.
I haven't seen the movie yet, but IMO the best F4 stories are ones where they aren't so much a team of super heroes, but rather a team of scientist and explorers with super powers. They are better suited to telling sci-fi stories rather then traditional superhero stories.
I won’t say more as to not spoil it for you, but I think the movie does touch a lot on your last paragraph. I think general audiences are just not connecting to it for a number of reasons.
I am so over the MCU
i think that they closed the first avengers phase too early. Specially iron man, i would like to see another iron man movie
I just saw FF tonight and I thought it was great. But I suspected interest must be off- I was in a cinema with only 12 other people.
I sqw Superman at 8 pm on the Friday it opened snd the theater was only about half full.
I've always been a huge MCU fan. I was always day 1 in cinema to see the next movie. But with what is happening in the US, and all the threat the US have been making to my country (and the world), I don't feel like buying and consumming any american product right now.
Every Fantastic Four movie is so bad... I don't understand why they keep trying.
Now its to setup the following movies. Good or bad all these movies will be released
My favourite part of the movie was when Thing got home and announced "Daddy needs to get his rocks off!"
Wait, really.
Yes. Then he yelled, “it’s sandblasting time!” The camera cut to a wall where a stream of sand was hitting it and it pooling on the floor.
Of fucking course that wasn’t said. 🤦♂️
Can I say the casting really killed any little desire I had of watching it? The Bleached Woman and the Hu-meh Torch in particular. In that regard, the 2005 movie was spot-on, IMO.
The 2005 movie that turned Doom into a ceo? Really? Where Reed Richards was a dumb shit?
If you noticed I was talking about the casting.
I just don't enjoy going to a movie theater that much. I'll watch it on Disney+ soon enough.
Yup, digital releases are within 3 months, high seas within the next few hours. Nothing enticing about a movie theater anymore.
Fantastic four is better suited for cartoons and comics. It never was popular.
Bring Ezra Miller back, their crazy bullshit will get butts in seats for sure
You know, a lot of people rag on Miller and the Flash movie, but VFX aside, they did a really good job establishing and playing 3 unique and distinct characters.
I'm not even ragging on the Flash, didn't watch it, I'm just sort of wondering where Miller went. I miss their Hawaiian rampage.
Miller's persona non grata after the whole "kidnapping a minor" thing, which may or may not be technically accurate, but still...
Oh come on, don't we all love an anti-hero? 😂
this post was submitted on 06 Aug 2025
105 points (100.0% liked)
Marvel Studios
4025 readers
1 users here now
Welcome to MarvelStudios, a community for discussing all things related to Marvel TV/Film productions with a focus on Marvel Studios.
This community is a place to discuss, share and generally have fun with all things Marvel Studios.
Upcoming TV/Film:
- Marvel Zombies - Season 1 - Oct 3, 2025
- Wonder Man - Season 1 - Dec 2025
- Daredevil: Born Again - Season 2 - Mar 2026
- Spider-Man: Brand New Day - July 31, 2026
- Avengers: Doomsday - December 18, 2026
- Vision Quest - 2026
- Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man - Season 2 - 2026
- Avengers: Secret Wars - December 17, 2027
MCU TV/Film Discussion:
- Eyes of Wakanda (Aug 2025)
- The Fantastic Four: First Steps (Jul 2025)
- Ironheart (Jun 2025)
- Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (2022 Rewatch) (Jun 2025)
- Thunderbolts* - (May 2025)
- Daredevil: Born Again - Season 1 (Mar 2025)
- Captain America: Brave New World (Feb 2025)
- Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man - Season 1 (Jan 2025)
- What If.... - Season 3 (Dec 2024)
- Agatha All Along (Sep 2024)
- Deadpool & Wolverine (Jul 2024)
- X-Men '97 - Season 1 (Mar 2024)
- Echo - Season 1 (Jan 2024)
- What If.... - Season 2 (Dec 2023)
- The Marvels (Nov 2023)
- Loki - Season 2 (Oct 2023)
- Secret Invasion - Season 1 (Jun 2023)
Non-MCU Discussion:
- Kraven The Hunter (Dec 2024)
- Venom: The Last Dance (Oct 2024)
- Madame Web (Feb 2024)
Misc Discussion:
- D23 2024 Discussion (Aug 2024)
Community Guidelines
- Be constructive. As a community this is place for discussion, things you liked, things you didn't like, any everything in between. Low effort comments don't add to the discussion.
- Be civil. Disagreements happen. Don't attack others. Take a moment and reconsider before you post an inflammatory comment in all caps.
- No spam. Please don't post spam, trolling or other low effort content. If you're a human and you saw something interesting or had an interesting thought, you're probably fine.
- Memes are allowed. We're a small community, feel free to post memes or similar content. Funny things are good. If it becomes a problem we can discuss changing the rules.
In addition like any community we follow the Lemmy.World content policy rules. In short, don't attack people or groups.
Spoiler Guidelines
- Be mindful when posting spoilers or spoiler content.
- If you're making a post put "(Spoilers)" at the start of your post.
- If your post is an image mark it as NSFW.
- If you're making a comment use the Lemmy spoilers markdown.
When should something no longer be considered a spoiler? In general use your best judgement. If want something more specific,
- For films, wait until it's been released to streaming for at least a few weeks.
- For TV shows, consider the whole season as a spoiler until the last episode of the season has aired, then wait a few weeks.
Related Communities:
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS