is there a good video demonstrating it? I use Cinnamon on Linux Mint and want to know what I'm missing out on.
You can use gtile on mint. It’s in the extensions settings
TIL. Thanks
I believe pop does a river style tiling system. Look up videos on Niri, Cosmic, or PaperWM.
There are many other tiling types too. River is however my favorite and I think most intuitive. Other popular ones are Sway, i3, and HyprLand.
Honestly I am new to this, so I could not find anything for it. But I think YouTube will have a video or two.
There exists a ton of youtube content creators showcasing all the tiling window managers. It's like one of the most popular topics for linux enthusiast content creators.
I started with pop!_os and still use it (though now with a proper TWM on top), and I can't go back to a non-tiling desktop honestly lol. I can't wait for COSMIC to come out as even in alpha that's my favourite tiling experience
Which TWM? What is the advantage over the default one?
I've tried out a bunch, but at the moment I've mainly been playing around with hyprland, cause it's also a dynamic tiler and im used to that layout now
The main advantage to me tbh is that certain windows don't overflow the assigned tile space like in pop-shell (this is also fixed in cosmic), but there are other things like having all your move/resize actions on the main mod layer instead of needing to enter adjust mode (super + enter is the default keybind on pop-shell), and the fact it uses wayland instead of x11
Of course there are also things that can be downsides depending on how you see it, like the fact it's a TWM not a desktop, which means if you want to adjust any setting you'll need to manually adjust config files, and that it doesn't come with things like a top bar or app launcher etc. So it can take a while to get up and running
What do you use it for? How much does it make your experience better?
What do you use it for?
Everything? Lol. I mean.. I just run my desktop in hyprland, no matter what im doing. Which for me I guess is gaming, drawing, some coding, and writing.. oh and tinkering with linux (though honestly I mostly do that in VMs)
How much does it make your experience better?
I'd say it's an improvement over GNOME :p.. though I have enough issues with the configs that I wouldn't really recommend it unless you have issues with GNOME that majorly bother you.. or unless you use one of the premade dotfile configs that people make lol..
For me being able to adjust the windows with my keyboard without needing to enter a special mode for it, and having windows forced into the tile size was worth it, as it was something that was a pet peeve of mine (and now I get to be annoyed by trying to set up my waybar vertically, tradeoffs lol)
You do not use TWM, do you?
Not quite hah :3
It's actually not one of the things I've tried when looking for the best DE/WM for me, though I might at some point just to see if im missing out on anything
The original TWM is definetely an experience nobody should miss. Like lighting a fire or washing your clothes manually.
I installed I3 a few times. I did not get it and I was to lazy to look up how to use it. Somehow your post made me install it again. This time I took that moment to look up how to use it. Less than 15 min later I found myself banging my head against the wall. Should have looked it's usage up the first time I installed it. This is what I need like 70% of the time. THNX!
Lol. Same thing happens with me. I always install a popular software, immediately find it unintuitive and badly designed, uninstall it. Then I install it again in a few days, weeks or months and then learn how to use it. Then I rarely uninstall it.
You could try also:
Yup, came here to mention PaperWM. I used xmonad in the past, but I executed it on top of Mate to have an "easy" desktop environment.
Nowadays Gnome extensions providing tiling is the equivalent "easy" method. Gnome is not for everyone, but it works out of the box- then you add the fancy tiling window management on top.
For people who have bounced off systems that require much more set up, I think they are a good option.
I've used i3wm for a long time now before switching to hyprland. The top useful thing: Workspaces. Even without tiling, workspaces give a massive productivity boost. You can have email clients open on one, monitoring systems on another, browsing on a third, gaming on a fourth. When you combine with tiling, everything is in its own perfect space and nothing overlaps. This is especially useful on single-monitor or laptop setups as you don't need multiple monitors to keep track of everything.
I also see people struggle with notifications tiling.
You probably don't want a bluetooth connected message to take up half your screen, so you'll want to make sure to properly configure those things.
At least in i3wm/hyprland, you can use the window class name to exclude a window from tiling (ex. for_window [class="mako"] floating enable or windowrulev2 = float,class:^(mako)$).
Too much people, including some popular youtuber, dont understand how tilling WMs make life easier.
How to make the most of it?
Use workspaces, I almost never used it before because I was set in my ways, but after switching to tiling WM it's a must and increases productivity by a LOT, I've grown so used to it that using windows with a mouse feels super clunky and cluttered.
Yeah, it was a revelation when I discovered tiling. I was always doing work with two windows open, and i'd spend so much time fiddling and resizing the windows. Then i'd open a third window and wouldn't know what to do with it.
I used i3 for many years and switched to sway when migrating to wayland. It does what I need and see no reason to try hyprland or other tilers.
I was using mint and found Gtile, I loved it, now I've moved to Fedora (KDE Plasma) and can't get anything as good as Gtile :(
I use this for KDE tilling https://github.com/anametologin/krohnkite
Edit: It is the active fork of krohnkite, the official repo is dead since 2022.
Well I recently tried Niri, a scrolling window manager and felt the same.
I don't know how anyone does anything with tiling windows. They must all be sooooo small...
You don't usually have them all open at the same time, you minimize some. Or maybe you add more monitors.
So you never have >2 windows open?
That's where workspaces come in place, I usually have a single full screen application per workspace, so Meta+1 is my browser, Meta+3 is my IDE, Meta+4 is slack, etc. Some workspaces have more than one application, e.g. I usually keep a few terminals in Meta+2.
This means that I usually work with things occupying all of my screen and in a short keystrokes I'm in whatever I want to be. But if I ever need to open a terminal or a random application it will occupy half my screen and whatever I was doing would resize to the other half, so I never have to grab my mouse to move stuff over to be able to see what I was doing.
It depends, up to four works for some apps depending on monitor size, but otherwise I do the same thing as @Nibodhika@lemmy.world.
Overlapping window managers, the most common type in use by far, just seem crazy to me. Windows almost never use the available monitor space, and they have to constantly be wrangled around each other so that… you can drag something instead of using the clipboard, I guess?
Haha yeah I agree completely. I don't understand how anyone prefers floating windows. It just feels so clumsy to use now that i'm used to tiling.
At most I have about 3 windows open at a time per workspace with 4 workspaces being used at a time for specific tasks. With the combo of tiling and workspaces I have never run into an instance of "clutter" on my desktop. This is off a single monitor setup too that I also use on my laptop.
@npdean I used bspwm for some time and really enjoyed it coming from xfce. I also felt a bit stupid to have moved windows around manually.
Briefly tried hyprland and sway.
Currently I am in love with niri.
Tiling WMs are incredibly powerful tools for boosting productivity. Over the years, I've tried several: awesome, i3, and dwm. Eventually, I settled on bspwm, which I’ve used for years. It offers far more than you'd expect from a traditional tiling WM—especially thanks to its excellent IPC. That’s why I couldn’t switch to Wayland for the longest time—none of the available options came close to what bspwm gave me.
But just two days ago, I discovered niri, and it completely changed my perspective. It felt like the first time I ever used a tiling WM—like a whole new world had opened up.
Niri fits into the same category as bspwm but takes window management even further. It introduces infinite horizontal scrolling, a novel approach that complements traditional tiling layouts. Combined with a robust IPC (something essential for my workflow), niri allows you to arrange windows dynamically in ways I’ve never seen before—including tabbed layouts that act as a vertical counterpart to its horizontal scroll.
Here’s a short video that only scratches the surface of niri’s potential, but it’s enough to spark your imagination about how customizable and flexible it really is. Personally, I’m deeply grateful to the developers for giving me a reason—and a way—to finally switch to Wayland. I had been desperately waiting for a reliable, robust, and fully-featured tiling WM for Wayland—and what I got was a unicorn I never even imagined.
I'm seeing several peeps mention Niri and it's causing me to get excited when that Niri config finally gets merged into CatchyOS. I've been waiting for so long for some distro to adopt it. Though, I would of preferred an image based, immutable and atomic distro, CatchyOS Will do. (I tried NixOS but something wasn't working for me)
Pop OS tiling is awesome. What I always try to do on tiling WM: set workspaces and spawn specific applications on specific workspaces. Not sure if Pop OS can do it, but on i3/dwm/sway...etc. you can freely spawn your applications wherever you like.
Try to play around with those DIY tiling environment. You will have a lot of fun if you like tinkering with stuff. Maybe one day you will run EXWM
Yes, I am trying it out. I get it doing what I want for the most part (mostly basic stuff).
People keep praising twm like a hidden secret. I have tried this multiple times without much attraction. I do not understand something. Maybe everyone has 21" screen.
I have 19" screen. It saves time, especially when you open a tab for minute, then minimise it.
Even just the key combos (win+numpad) to do basic tiling in XFCE are a huge plus
Is this a thing on all DEs?
to tell you the truth, I don't know! I think I just saw someone asking about tiling window managers in some forum, and a reply suggested trying the xfce functions since they mostly just wanted to use two side-by-side windows occasionally. I do it a good chunk of the time now, but it's not always the most convenient method on small screens & monitors
I was going a long way, until I built a perfect AwesomeWM configuration for myself, and have not changed it for a while now. I am willing to switch to Wayland-based solution now, as it seems to be a bit more performant, but I just can't make myself to do it: my config is really cozy and working
I love Linux. You can do this and there is still room for change. I hope some day I too make such a custom thing.
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