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It's not the EU yet. It's a group of activists from Denmark. There wasn't even preliminary voting on it yet.
Doesn't mean we need to be complacent of course, but so far nothing happened.
Maybe it’s time to restart some some old Greek traditions and propose a law that anyone proposing chat control - from here on out - gets banished for life from entering European soil ever again.
I am in favour of this proposal.
Ugh, this shit again...
Are there any initiatives out there to call a stop to this? Or even better, initiatives to introduce legislation that forbids setting up this kind of surveillance infrastructure altogether?
The annoying thing is that some states like Germany pretty much prohibit surveillance of this extend by constitution. It couldn‘t be made any harder for a legislation like this to pass and yet they keep trying.
Patrick Breyer with the pirate party is my go to example of why small parties and extraparliamentary opposition is important. 99% of the people don't even know him and he's just doing such an sucessful job of protecting them anyway.
Your local Pirate Party and organizations like Bits of Freedom can help out.
Absolutely unacceptable and ridiculous.
Agree
Wtf. Is Signal going to be affected? I just recently installed Signal on my phone.
Signal has already stated that they will pull out of the UK if they go through with their version of this, I imagine they'll say the same for the EU.
Get a good VPN, exit it from a non-5 eyes country, and hope they don't start blocking by phone number alone.... and hopefully they'll drop the phone number requirement sooner than later.
Also, welcome to Signal!
~~I think they already dropped the phone number req, not sure though~~
No, still required. However, you can have a username of sorts to give to people and block finding you by phone number in the platform.
Ah, that's what I was thinking of then
STASI enters the chat.
Hey at least Stasi only spied on people they suspected.
That's due to the limitation at the time.
They won't.
If you're a citizen of an EU country, you should contact your politicians to tell them not to, maybe they won't.
It only has to pass once, and they keep trying.
Some keep trying. That's how democracy and politics works in general.
Many people in the US thought “He won’t”
So, call your representatives.
I agree that calling representatives can always be a good idea. But you cant compare the US and the EU.
There is no "he", there is no president. No single person can run nor ruin it.
It's simply not as fragile, but again, always let your voice be heard like you suggest. Just in case.
Yeah. "EU wants this, EU wants that" - bullshit, the EU has no will of its own. A set of politicians within the EU, on the other hand.
The EU also does not have a president like you know from countries. There is no supreme leader, and laws are made with every member state involved.
With SKG going as well as it is, wouldn't an ECI on chat control be in order?
Welcome to earth, Everybody Sucks Here.
time to make my own shitty ass software to deal with this stuff
Let us know when it's ready for Alpha testing. Most of us will gladly give it a shot and help iron it out.
The never stop trying. Fucking incompetent dumm politicians.
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