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[-] lemonySplit@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

Too bad they crushed all the old cars

[-] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago

Basically how i try to live my life! Buy physical media, setup a nas, unplug from the internet on most weekends (or limit it).

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 10 points 9 hours ago

No. The capitalists are the problem. Not the tech grunts.

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

The idea that we can even DO anything about capitalism at this point is a forgone fantasy. Not to say we shouldn't keep trying to push for a better, more equitable world until the time becomes more ripe to do away with personal gain above others, but we don't get there all at once. There will be no revolution, nobody is coming.

But if we were to work together and firmly, decisively push actual, selected representatives into power who are committed to getting MOTHERFUCKING MONEY OUT OF POLITICS, that would bring a thousand miles closer to that ideal world we all want. Other countries have done it, but our problem in America is we have a population way too comfortable and atomized to ever band together and do this critically important thing.

I don't have a way to reach enough people without some kind of massive disaster that forces people off their couches and makes food out of reach.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Oh, is that how we beat the Nazis? With half-assed reforms and vote organizing?

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

No, but keep enjoying feeling superior for knowing we need to do more while not doing more.

[-] Jaded99@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

Please use windows XP and connect it to the internet and see what happens LOL

[-] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I connected win 98 to the internet yesterday. It was fine, and probably safer than win 11 is now. No built in Spyware either ha!

(Don't use win 98 as your main os. I am partially joking and I only use it for running old programs and games.)

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Try to exist in any kind of life above "hippy with hemp clothes living in a yurt on their parent's property and a trust fund" without things like a smartphone, a car and a computer.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

How about struggling but still extant written internet journalists? “Dumb” or simplified smart phones or e-ink devices? Modern iPod clones? The upcoming Slate car? A local LLM/voice assistant?

There are tons of neat alternatives to tech bros, the problem is attention. People just don’t know about them, so they don’t hit critical mass.

…I don’t have a good solution to this, but the attention economy is broke and following the herd is not working anymore. And there are solutions better than going backwards, but no mental energy to find them.

[-] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 2 points 7 hours ago

Who needs an iPod clone when you can literally buy an iPod, drop 1Tb of storage in it, and sync it to your library like you always could.

It's stupidly easy to do, and those things are still rock solid. And you can put Rockbox on too, if you don't want iTunes anywhere near your computer. Or you use Linux and can't have iTunes.

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

The junk products are not the problem, they will be phased out in a few years anyway, like all the ones before them.

The problem is the political system that is completely subservient to corporations that allows them to create accepted social standards like "you have to have the newest phone and a computer to even dream of getting a job interview" or the manufactured consent that much of America adheres to that things like social programs, welfare and universal basic income are tools of the devil.

Or the epidemic of planned-obsolescence that every last democrat and republican representative profits from as much as the tech-barons they work for. Other countries have laws about making products that last so citizens don't have to spend their every last dime to just to keep having basic appliances and connection to the world.

If we made a unified push to install representatives that also want a better world and aren't blithering morons who want to get rich, it would go a long ways to healing the system, but I don't know how that's going to happen since we all allowed our population to also become blithering morons.

With the recent destruction of PBS and their associated programs, this is going to get even worse. But don't worry, kids will be able to ask Grok for history facts.

[-] merdaverse@lemmy.zip 25 points 20 hours ago

Is this supposed to be satire? How is print media owned by massive conglomerates, flip phones with no OSS firmware, handwritten letters delivered by a literal middleman, avoiding the middlemen??

[-] Octavio@lemmy.world 11 points 18 hours ago

They’re not defining “middleman” in the traditional sense of an intermediary in an economic exchange. The first panel introduces a new definition of the term as a tech bro attempting to insinuate himself into the process of communicating with others. The remedies offered would indeed seem to preclude this type of middleman from interfering with the process.

[-] cley_faye@lemmy.world 9 points 19 hours ago

When ceiling fans and AC units requires an account, yeah, something's wrong.

[-] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 3 points 10 hours ago

The morality of a technology is determined by those in control of it, and look who's in control today.

[-] AusatKeyboardPremi@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

I see a few comments about self hosting stuff to escape the clutches of big tech, and while all that is effective to a high degree, it is beyond the abilities of the general populace.

Besides, I am also of the opinion that not everything has to be digital or smart.

I relish writing and receiving letters, it is tangible and indicates commitment. Fortunately, postal system isn’t going anywhere anytime soon.

I like reading newspapers and it was sad to see all shops in my neighbourhood stop selling them during or after COVID. It was equally sad to see a lot of magazines not survive that period.

I miss my old TV that was simpler to use and started quicker than my newer smart TV. It does not matter if I disconnect the latter from the internet, it takes its time to load up. Besides, I don’t see any perceivable difference in picture quality from the distance I watch from.

Older laptops, though heavier, were more repairable. In certain aspects, they are better than modern ones: more tactile keyboard, nicer screen ratio (4:3). Of course, the newer laptops decimate the old ones when it comes to performance and screen quality but that is just technology progressing.

I could keep going on with a plethora of product categories. But across all my points, I wish some companies could continue offering such products, at least to a customer base that is willing to pay more just to support the existence of those products.

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 5 points 19 hours ago

I was with you until 4:3. You should be locked up.

On a more serious note: Framework laptops. More repairable than the laptops of yore, minus the soldered CPUs which seem unavoidable in laptops now.

[-] AusatKeyboardPremi@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

lol.

To rile you up a bit, I wish I could say it is a subjective thing but 4:3 is the better option for laptops.

More vertical screen estate, given one would mostly be doing their reading, writing and browsing – activities that are traditionally vertically oriented.

Even most websites just centre their content and leave behind swathes of white/empty space on both sides.

Anything beyond those activities, one should be using a bigger screen (desktop or a TV)^^^.

Jokes(?) apart, Framework laptops are the best option for folks like us as it ticks the most boxes. But it is not available in the country where I live, and I don’t want to import it as it would be meaningless without its broader ecosystem. FWIW, I have dropped them emails every year requesting them to expand their presence in more countries.

Till then, old ThinkPads. They are cheap, have enough spare parts on the market even after almost 2 decades, and even come with the kind of keyboards and screens that I like. :-)


^^^This, unlike the text above it, is a subjective thing

P.S.I always wanted to use superscript, subscript and horizontal line. Thanks to you, I got to use 2/3. :-)

[-] HailSeitan@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago
[-] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 1 points 10 hours ago

That's just false, and is also not the message of the article you linked.

The articles point is not that avoiding enshittification won't make a difference in the amount of enshittification you experience: To the contrary, it affirms that it likely will! The articles point is that personally avoiding enshittification isn't an effective way of combatting the ubiquity of enshittification in society, ie "consumer activism" and "voting with your dollars" cannot create system change.

Most everyone here already knows this, and I imagine you also understood the article just fine and don't need me explaining it to you, but you botched the paraphrase in your link thus seeding a lot of potential confusion and frustration absent some clarification. This is intentionally a thread about personally avoiding enshittification, and that does not imply a rejection of the desire to also end it oestebsibly by other means.

[-] JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml 5 points 20 hours ago

Did you read it till the end?

[-] HailSeitan@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

Yes: We need structural remedies, not individuals opting out. But please tell me what your implied “gotcha” is supposed to be.

[-] sundray@lemmus.org 10 points 1 day ago

What a fantastic post, thank you for linking it!

Seriously though, I do think that it's interesting that this comic and that essay seem to take up opposite positions*, but in each case they attract more contrary comments than ones that agree. I suppose no matter what you post, any given person is more likely to comment on it if it pisses them off than if it confirms their beliefs. It's a good thing Lemmy doesn't reward engagement, or else we'd be up to our eyeballs in ragebait, eh?

*Unless you read the whole thing instead of bouncing off the first paragraph.

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