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Stop using the parts that ask for ID except for ones that have a passing justification like government sites, banking, and utilities. I'm sure there will still be plenty of sites like the Fediverse that don't request ID.
I'll probably avoid unimportant sites if I'm not able to find alternatives. There's no way I'm providing that kind of info to any site asking.
Hopefully we can move to some kind of underground “dark net” type thing and make a 90s / 2000s style internet with forums and stuff. Actual information and not AI Slop.
Or just stop using the internet as much and be more productive.
Maybe something like i2p, Tor or IPFS
I'm curious what the younger generation does. They are the ones who are good about bypassing restrictions.
We'll make our own Web. With blackjack and hookers.
Yes, exactly! And anyone that doesn’t like it bite my shinny metal…
Antiquing?
I mean, we're all posting and conversing about this on Lemmy. Isn't that exactly what happened already?
yes, and we'll do it again if we need to
Lemmy 2. Federated more. So much more it's installed on everything, even your toaster, we don't even know where all it's federated to, it's become sentient, it said something about humans being the threat, I'm sure it's fine.
Try Lemmy 2 today!
Mesh networks bypassing the internet become a sort of pirate radio of the future?
I read the other day that meshtastic doesn’t have the bandwidth to send much data. And all other data has to wait until it finishes sending the first thing.
I think the better option is having a wifi with a server or NAS to serve content and other neighbors mesh with the WiFi and keep boosting it.
Frankly the modern internet is extremely bloated, most non-video/image hosting should take very little bandwidth.
And the government will be able to easily squash that by tracing the sources. It's gonna have to be more of an underground darknet that piggybacks off other signals like copper or electrical.
Yeah, it’s hard not to imagine anything that couldn’t be compromised pretty quickly these days. That being said, is it worth the money to hunt down tens of thousands of small mesh devices? Value plays a big part in this for both sides, I guess. I actually have no idea how plausible any of it is, just fun to dream up
This is actually a really interesting idea.
I'll make my own internet
With blackjack and hookers?
Especially with blackjack and hookers
The Internet is a bunch of Autonomous Systems running open protocols like BGP. Packets have no passports.
#packetshavenopassports
True about the core protocols, but the ID verification is happening at the application layer where most people actually interact. The internet's plumbing might be neutral, but the doors to websites/services are where the gatekeeping is happening. Reminds me of how China's Great Firewall works - the packets flow freely but the endpoints are controlled.
IDK. Honestly, I really don't know. I don't bend or break, I just put one foot in front of the other, so maybe I keep chasing the remaining communities deeper and deeper?
But at some point, I think I just become a monk. If I can no longer learn through technology, I'll be forced to only look inwards. I think I leave everything behind and just start walking... I've had the urge all my life, but the comfort always called me back eventually
I've been thinking along the same lines.
I've even been collecting books, just in case I have to sit out the next decade of Internet bullshit.
This could make me sound cultured, except in the current meta context I guess I'm realizing I ought to add some Playboy magazines to the shelf...
Probably spend a lot more time doing things that are better uses of my time anyway.
I'm not sure, but I certainly don't want to have my id linked to everything.
We spent years being told don't use your real name on the internet etc
Now the government's want us to tie formal id to it
--Edit guns to the--
wait, guns?
Yep that was a weird typo was meant to be a "the", no idea how i did that
that's understandable. probably one of the craziest auto corrects i've seen
fake ids probably
Pornography would be a pretty good reason to get/have a fake Id.
If everyone is going to collect and unsafely store IDs it just becomes a rational precaution to get a burner one.
tor and onion sites I suppose like a right wing lunatic drug addict pedophile
i agree with the first half, but what happened on the second half?
Right now who do you think uses tor, primarily? 8chan pol, daily stormer, qanon, drug markets, and pedophile forums
most pedophile forums are fake afaik
and yeah i guess there are those things, but most people there just want anonimity
pedophilia on tor is an extremely real thing.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11757-023-00790-8
In May 2021, the police arrested five German men, aged between 40 and 64, who are suspected of having run “Boystown,” one of the largest child sexual abuse forums on the darknet (Connolly 2021). According to the police, the forum had been online for 2 years and, at the time it was shut down, had over 400,000 registered members.
Research conducted in 2015 found there were 900 child sexual abuse forums like “Boystown” active on the darknet at the time, together receiving an average of 168,152 requests per day (Owen and Savage 2015).
https://www.vg.no/spesial/2017/undercover-darkweb/?lang=en
It is January 2017. At this point the two have been running the Childs Play website for three months. Under their supervision, thousands of members have shared photos and videos of children being sexually abused. A Norwegian member boasted of abusing children in his own family. Some members got together in person to commit abuse, which they filmed and shared on the forum.
(This one tbf was a honeypot run by police, which is ethically fucked)
Fourteen men operating a child pornography website on the Darknet's Onion Router, also known as Tor, have been arrested and charged as part of a conspiracy to operate a child exploitation enterprise, following an extensive international investigation by ICE's Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) and USPIS. Eleven have been federally charged in the Eastern District of Louisiana and three in other districts. All are in federal custody.
With regards to right wing nonsense it varies, the aforementioned stuff like the daily stormer has moved to tor, 8chan is on tor, there are a number of Islamic militant groups that utilize tor, etc. and the drug and fraud markets have always been around in one form or another though they come and go (whether they get busted or decide to just cut and run with everyone’s crypto once the bag is full enough)
I was fine before the internet, I'll be fine after
Even if this id thing doesn't become omnipresent, 90% of content is bots and the few humans left don't ever bother upvoting meaningfully anyway
It's best to just leave it
this post was submitted on 01 Aug 2025
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