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[-] Antagnostic@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Fake news! Everyone knows Wyoming was made up by the deep state and doesn't actually exist.

[-] Asswardbackaddict@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Wyoming is corrupt as fuck. Coal is in charge there

[-] slaacaa@lemmy.world 18 points 9 hours ago

Every time you thank ChatGPT, a house goes dark in Wyoming

[-] Asswardbackaddict@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

*a barn goes dark

[-] jsomae@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 hours ago

But this proposed data center is so big, it would have its own dedicated energy from gas generation and renewable sources

Very unfortunate, as this could have been an opportunity to advance the green power agenda. Solar, wind, and nuclear are all more efficient than fossil fuels -- so why build new fossil fuel plants?

[-] gian@lemmy.grys.it 1 points 11 minutes ago

Because solar and wind plants, while they can be cheap and relatively fast to build, are not as reliable as a datacenter need and it is not predictable, so at most they can supplement some other generation method, in this scenario. Then ok, you probably need less fossil fuel (but gas is not necessary fossil these days).
And a nuclear plant is probably way longer to build than the datacenter itself, if you ever get the green light to build it.

[-] sqw@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 6 hours ago
[-] Asswardbackaddict@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I have seen impulsive gaslighting and malicious classified spill out of every one of these ai. Straight up doing verbal abuse.

Edit: I'm gonna go on. I forget what I was talking about, but I was connecting various facts and asking about Epstein stuff. It immediately and repeatedly classified it as non serious conspiracy, and after pressing, presented facts backing 4 out of 5 of the things it said was crazy, and there have been books written saying the exact same thing.

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 25 points 14 hours ago

Lmao have fun with that power grid impact, Wyoming…

[-] jsomae@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I said this elsewhere, but it will have its own dedicated power supply.

[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 13 hours ago

Its going to ruin most states around it too, Wyoming is a massive net electricity exporter, due to cheap coal and wind resources. A majority of what they produce is transmitted to neighboring states, as far as Oregon and Washington.

[-] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 141 points 19 hours ago

And suddenly these same assholes will tell you to turn your ac off because the power grid can't meet demand for some "mysterious" reason.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

or use less water because the AI center needs it to cool off. its funny how all these AI data centers are only in red states, they dont make a fuss over it, but if they tried this a blue one, people would raise hell over it.

[-] pdxfed@lemmy.world 54 points 16 hours ago

Splurge for me, conserve for thee.

Same with water in CA. Industry uses >80% of water in the state and the focus is on 30 second showers and bullying citizens because their representatives have been captured along with their press in the profit machine.

[-] bear 2 points 1 hour ago

Residential homes use about 12% of the consumed fresh water in the United States.

Their whole industries that scrape a bit of profit off of a huge amount of America's water. Like exporting alfalfa grown in a desert.

[-] eatCasserole@lemmy.world 55 points 18 hours ago

“To the best of our knowledge, it is the largest data center — we think of it as a campus — in the world,” OpenAI’s chief global affairs officer Chris Lehane told The Associated Press last week. “It generates, roughly and depending how you count, about a gigawatt of energy.”

Why is this guy saying a datacenter generates energy? It does literally the exact opposite. I guess you don't need to actually know anything to get a leadership role at openai, as long as you can say lots of words.

[-] General_Effort@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

But this proposed data center is so big, it would have its own dedicated energy from gas generation and renewable sources, according to Collins and company officials.

The "depending on how you count" probably refers to the renewables.

[-] Ch3rry314@piefed.social 19 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

It's exactly what they want. He is avoiding use of clear, concise sentences to mislead the layman. The data center is generating a gigawatt of energy, for their use. The Wyoming power grid is their battery.

[-] etherphon@piefed.world 1 points 12 hours ago

Jfc you almost gave me a heart attack and I had to go re-read, it's Wyoming, no data center here yet though Microsoft was proposing one in Racine. It's only a matter of time with all the water here.

[-] MysteriousSophon21@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago

Yeah that language is pure corporate BS - data centers CONSUME energy at massive scales (up to 1 gigawatt in this case, which is insane), they're literally just giant heaters that occasionally produce AI outputs as a byproduct of all that wasted electricty.

[-] bigfondue@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

I guess they could say they are generating 1GW of computing power

[-] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 2 points 12 hours ago

More like a GW of heat... Thankfully I'm sure that will counteract whatever has caused it to be over 80 degrees on my way to work before 0700.

[-] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 6 points 16 hours ago

I read something about natural gas powered power plants; not sure if it's this one specifically.

Because unfortunately this is not the only gigantic climate destroyer AI thingy planned/built.

[-] null@lemmy.nullspace.lol 1 points 11 hours ago

Why is this guy saying a datacenter generates energy? It does literally the exact opposite.

Is that true, though?

[-] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 3 points 14 hours ago

the only thing that makes sense is heat

[-] makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

AI Data centers noticeably fuck with the grid. As a result they are facing internal and external pressure to generate more of their own power. Microsoft is opening a nuclear power plant. I would not be shocked to learn through solar, wind, and coal they provide the majority of their own power

[-] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

My data center has 35MW of generators onsite. No modern DC is designed nor built without backup generators to allow continuous operation during any utility power outages.

[-] CorruptCheesecake@lemmy.world 11 points 14 hours ago
[-] Stillwater@sh.itjust.works 31 points 19 hours ago

To be fair, only 6 people live in Wyoming

[-] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 10 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

You're absolutely correct - just taking the opportunity to add some hard facts:

587,618

That is very little considering it's about the size of any other mid-Western state.

So: "This AI data center will use the energy of half a million households" - doesn't sound much better.

[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 8 points 12 hours ago

From the article, it sounds like it will eventually use 20x the energy of all the households in Wyoming. That's pretty fucking nuts.

I'm starting to think this is how they ease us into accepting the argument they need to grind us up for biofuel.

"Sorry kids, it turns out deregulation of nuclear safety and all these small modular nuclear reactors we built still isn't enough to power the data centers."

"Good news, we have this new idea: You know how there's just way too many of you bc we've been banning birth control methods and spreading misinformation about declining birth rates? And there's also not enough food bc of tariffs and a lack of available labor to harvest all those crops we let rot?"

To be fair, in exchange we will still get to enjoy terrible AI generated art and music.

[-] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago

misinformation about declining birth rates

What misinformation? Every expert on the subject is agreeing that we're at or below replacement rate.

[-] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I mean my opinion is if your plan is to take away everybody's healthcare, collapse the economy, close public schools, and decrease quality of life in general, plus do all these other crazy things that put the mother's life at risk, why would it be a good idea to encourage as many new births as possible?

Also, I know n=1 but I really wanted to have another kid last year, but put it off specifically bc of the crazy laws Republicans started passing that put maternal health at risk. Honestly, I'm relieved I didn't bc the economy has also gotten so bad since then and everything is so uncertain. Now when I read stories about brain dead women being forced to be kept alive to carry a fetus and give birth it makes me wonder if I'll ever want to risk having another baby.

I think it's dishonest to pretend that current birthrates in the U.S. at least aren't in part a reflection of many women's fears about giving birth during such a chaotic time.

[-] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I wasn't referring to the US in particular, but global birth rates.

https://www.science.org/content/article/population-tipping-point-could-arrive-2030

Edit to add: I'm in no way commenting on the situation in the States, just clearing up a potential misconception I see very frequently, which is that the global population is still booming, when we should already be worrying about the opposite.

[-] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 21 points 18 hours ago

if governments won't protect us then the time for corporate sabotage is on us. make it incredibly expensive to keep businesses and data centers open.

[-] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

Literally the plot of Eddington lol, this country gets worse each year

[-] HalifaxJones@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

I was looking for someone to say this. Then realized not many people here watch recent movies.

[-] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

More like most people don't watch anything other then studio tentpole and popcorn muncher movies

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago
[-] pewgar_seemsimandroid 4 points 18 hours ago

do they really have nothing better to do?

[-] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 6 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Becoming rich is an obsession. It doesn't just end once you're rich.

[-] cy_narrator@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 17 hours ago
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