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[-] Sunshine@piefed.ca 1 points 22 minutes ago

It’s the court fees that get in the way.

[-] greengnu@slrpnk.net 0 points 7 hours ago

If nuclear energy used the same accounting practices as coal, oil or natural gas energy plants; they would have to pay their customers to hit zero profit.

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 day ago

We will know in 30 years if they are really cheaper over their lifetime.

France did a similar low cost mass production of nuclear reactors in the 1970ties and those reactors turned out to have a lot of construction defects some decades later and costly repairs really drove up their total costs.

[-] keepthepace@slrpnk.net 1 points 46 minutes ago

Nuclear plants have been decommissioned and restored to regular use in the past. There is nothing prospective about the costs of the operation.

[-] AlpacaChariot@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah, I expect shutting down the plant for any kind of maintenance is really expensive with nuclear

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 day ago

I believe the bigger issue is that once you have started them, a lot of the interior is radioactive (even when turned off) and thus repairs become quite complicated, compared to doing a more thorough job during construction when there is no radiation yet.

[-] schmorpel@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 day ago

Yay low cost nuclear reactors! /s

[-] sexy_peach@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago

Looks like a strategy that no western country can copy. It requires careful planning ahead and domestic manufacturing.

[-] oneser@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Also a completely integrated local and low-cost supply chain, unlimited access to cheap physical labour and an incredible government overreach to ensure every company is towing the same line.

To further note:

The authors caution that nuclear power is still not cheap

[-] sexy_peach@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago

Yup china also knows this, that's why they build much more renewables

[-] drosophila 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

incredible government overreach to ensure every company is towing the same line.

Sounds like just the right amount of reach to me.

[-] oneser@lemmy.zip 4 points 14 hours ago

It's a similar reach that a certain loud orange man is trying to instill E.g.. As long as it doesn't directly negatively impact your life, you probably won't notice too much.

[-] drosophila 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Oh? Is the orange man building nuclear plants and high speed rail at a rapid pace and for super cheap?

No? Then can you explain to me why this comment is relevant at all? I'm aware that China has shitty policies in regards to some minorities, but are you insinuating that's the reason they're able to build infrastructure so quickly?

No? Then who is being oppressed when companies are forced to "tow the line" and complete a project quickly instead of stopping to sue each other and/or the state constantly like they do in North American? Am I supposed to feel bad for Guangxi LiuGong Machinery Co? Is China Energy Engineering Corp Ltd crying in the corner?

[-] oneser@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 hour ago

Oh? Is the orange man building nuclear plants and high speed rail at a rapid pace and for super cheap?

No, he is drilling for oil & gas because it's readily available and aligns with his party's vision of national interest.

No? Then can you explain to me why this comment is relevant at all? I'm aware that China has shitty policies in regards to some minorities, but are you insinuating that's the reason they're able to build infrastructure so quickly?

China is building energy independence to be able to act geopolitically independent, not to be a saviour of the world (i.e. national interest). They can do it quickly domestically because no one can stand in their way. The current republican party is creating a framework to also reduce the amount of resistance they face when enacting their vision.

I'm not asking for anyone to feel bad for macroeconomics... Just not to indiscriminately believe that overreach is a good thing when it happens to align with our own interests.

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