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Egypt bans niqab in schools (www.middleeasteye.net)
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The Egyptian government has announced a ban on the wearing of the face-covering niqab in schools from the beginning of the next term on 30 September.

Education Minister Reda Hegazy made the announcement on Monday, adding that students would still have the right to choose whether to wear a headscarf, but insisted it must not cover their faces.

He also said that the child's guardian should be aware of their choice, and that it must have been made without any outside pressure.

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[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Baby steps.

[-] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago

Will this receive the same amount of outrage as the similar news from France?

[-] agitatedpotato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 1 year ago

France has banned Hijabs and Abaya robes in schools not just Niqabs. Egypt is preventing people from hiding their face in school, France is doing a lot more. I don't think it's directly comparable considering the Niqab bans at least have a safety component. Whos safer because school kids cant wear head scarfs?

[-] Alterforlett@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Devils advocate here: isn't the reasoning behind the hijab bans that it's sexist, not a safety issue?

[-] archiotterpup@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Not really. It's a secular issue. France bans all religious displays in schools.

[-] agitatedpotato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, that's what I mean there's no aspect of safety there. I don't think it's less sexist to legislate that no girls or women in schools can wear them them than it is to choose to wear one though. And if we just assume it's sexist anyway, who is it hurting? It seems like over reach to use sexism as the reason to ban something that only effects the person who choses to do it. Does France ban any other sexist clothing, or just the ones muslim women wear? That may be a good insight into their decision making.

[-] Alterforlett@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I agree in most cases. However it is an issue when it's no longer a choice.

Anecdotal, but a church/cult where I grew up and went to school, forbid women and girls to wear anything but skirts. Now a lot of them maybe preferred skirts over pants, but it was never their choice.

Gotta say I'm on the fence on this one. Women should be allowed to wear whatever the hell they want, but it is a problem when a garment is occasionally forced on only them. I have no good solution

[-] agitatedpotato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In France I imagine it's a choice more often than not, but if its an issue when it's no longer a choice, then a blanket ban on them in school poses the exact same problem as now many women who want to, no longer can or they face legal punishment. This ban likely applies to teachers too who are clearly old enough to make their own decisions.

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[-] Doorbook@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Again, we see the same male dominant governments, decide, for absolutely no necessary reasons, what women should and should not ware. While people respond with the same; deciding on behalf of other what is good for them. Saying hijabs, nigab, and othe religious clothing is oppression, is by itself a personal opinion. Making rule based on that, is oppression.

Instead of focusing on education itself, social support and protection, they put out laws that devide people further and distract them from major issues that's going on.

Disgusting...

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