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[-] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 134 points 2 months ago

the most important thing to have when pirating is common sense

the second most important thing to have is a vpn

[-] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 70 points 2 months ago

Still don't know why I'd need a vpn. My country doesn't go after individuals pirating (yet). That's the only reason, as far as I understand, to have a vpn for pirating. So until they start to take come after individuals, I'm gonna save my money.

[-] BlueRingedOctopus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 75 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You only need a VPN in very few countries, some countries where it is needed to avoid fines/getting your internet connection cutoff from your ISP are the US, Germany and a few other countries somewhere in western Europe, also don't pirate polish films without a VPN if you live in Poland, the rest of the world doesn't care about people downloading movies online.

[-] VitabytesDev@feddit.nl 11 points 2 months ago

I am in Greece pirating without a VPN, and even after the new anti-piracy law passed, I haven't received a notice (yet).

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[-] eleitl@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 months ago

In Germany they won't cut off your Internet connection. They'll send you a cease and desist for a few thousand euros.

[-] BlueRingedOctopus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago

That's even worse 😳

[-] BakedCatboy@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 months ago

I think you've exactly described why some people need a VPN. My ISP does 3 strikes when they get complaints :/

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[-] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 41 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

the most important this to have when pirating is common sense

We disagree actually, it's to have well written tutorials and not to rely on the idea that people can just know things from nothing.

We get the frustration in this meme but honestly, we never liked this kind of attitude in tech spaces, it's exclusionary, gatekeepy and harms people. We understand not wanting to answer every single question but some well written tutorials etc to link to are better than having everyone starting in ignorance and getting in trouble or being harmed for it.

Especially if said tutorials keep up to date and add more answers to people's questions over time.

After all, being helpful actually helps the pirate community in that more people seed, so helping others is actually win-win. There's really no downsides whereas expecting others to know everything or being rude stops this from happening and thus is a loss for all of us.

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 13 points 2 months ago

Tutorials can't cover everything. Once you encounter something completely new, you need common sense to extrapolate from your existing knowledge (which could be from a tutorial or experience, etc).

In the end, whether we're talking about piracy, work or life in general… You need to be able to adapt to situations, not just read guides.

That's not to say well-written tutorials shouldn't exist, but the common sense part is still more important IMO

[-] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 20 points 2 months ago

Sure, but the problem is that people aren't taught those skills necessarily. So it does help when people are willing to help out in case those skills or ability to do that or for many other reasons aren't possible.

We get that not everybody can or wants to, but a quick "I'm unable to help you" is fine, yet we see so mahy people being rude instead. Leave space for those who can or want to help instead 🙂

[-] curry@programming.dev 17 points 2 months ago

Dunno man. Common sense for us in IT is different compared to layman. For example, I thought it was common sense to treat incognito mode only as a shortcut so I wouldn't have to clear browsing history and local cookies everytime. Then I read about users thinking incognito mode actually protected them against snooping or fingerprinting.

[-] hmmm@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

the second most important thing to have is a vpn

😉🤭

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[-] Uiop@lemmy.dbzer0.com 77 points 2 months ago
[-] BlueRingedOctopus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 2 months ago

I pirated this meme in the highest quality I could but lemmy compresses the image to 60-70% of its original quality, that's why it's so blurry 😅

[-] teft@piefed.social 37 points 2 months ago

This seems like a meme about piracy for script kiddies. These issues don’t really exist for anyone who knows what they’re doing.

[-] Blurntout@lemmy.ca 61 points 2 months ago

Hence the “starter pack” lol they do indeed not know what they are doing

[-] princessnorah 7 points 2 months ago

I thought starter packs weren't supposed to be ironic, did I miss something?

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[-] jbone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 months ago

It literally is a meme, an ironic one.

[-] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 10 points 2 months ago

We all have to start somewhere, it's better to help than gatekeep.

[-] AccountMaker@piefed.social 35 points 2 months ago

A serious question: what's wrong with pirate bay? I have been using it to download movies, shows and language learning content for over a decade, and I never had any problems.

[-] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 51 points 2 months ago

Those aren't typically risky media. When you're downloading games though, you're downloading executable programs. You can do some serious damage if you execute the wrong things. You're not executing a mkv or a pdf, you're only reading it.

[-] BlueRingedOctopus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 80 points 2 months ago

You're not executing a mkv or a pdf

You're half wrong and half right, .mkv files are completely safe but the same can't be said about .pdf files, attackers can embed malicious code, such as JavaScript or hidden executables, within a PDF file.

People really underestimate the capabilities of this .pdf file format. I remember some time ago, someone managed to run doom inside a .pdf file.

[-] CameronDev@programming.dev 35 points 2 months ago

Theoretically, there could also be a MKV file that exploits a bug in the video player to get execution.

Far less likely, but definitely possible.

[-] BlueRingedOctopus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 months ago

There's a difference between exploiting bugs that haven't even been found and spreading malware through a method that's known by pretty much everyone and is still used to spread malware today.

It's also theoretically possible that your system is already infected by some Advanced Persistent Threats but does that happen that often, No, and have people been infected by running random pdfs they found online, Yes.

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[-] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 months ago

You can embed 3d models in PDF.

You shouldn't but you can!

[-] DosDude@retrolemmy.com 7 points 2 months ago

Tell that to circuit board designers. It's horrible every time a 3d model of a circuit board is added. The component height gives no visual advantage, and it's slow as shit on corporate computers.

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[-] BlueRingedOctopus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Don't download games and software from it and always check the file extensions and make sure they're not something like Movie.mp4.exe or Movie.mkv.exe, other than that you're good.

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[-] darcmage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 months ago

Nothing is wrong with it. I imagine you'd be the type to survive in the wild west because you're equipped to do so while people around you die of dysentery.

[-] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 months ago

it's just guilty of being around for so long so it's popular which attracts a lot of attention.

[-] Unknown_0671 30 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

chrome, mcaffee, pirate bay, utorrent. am i back in 2010

[-] yoriaiko 30 points 2 months ago

Fat girl bad, noted.

[-] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 months ago

{intitle:game I wanted}{infile:*torrent}

This was how I used to format my piracy searches. 13 years later I recognize that forcing the search engine to generate direct links to the torrents instead of handing me pages I could get was probably where those viruses came from 😅

[-] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 months ago

I don't understand folks that pirate games. I don't think there's a particular service issue currently between all the platforms and sales.

If I'm boycotting a publisher/studio, I just don't play their games. If I find them too expensive, I just don't buy it and won't play it. And if it's not worth buying it at full price, I'll just might buy it on sale later.

Movies and TV shows on the other hand... There's definitely a service issue there.

[-] ComradePedro@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 months ago

Money doesn't grow on trees, also people just like free stuff?

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[-] yoriaiko 17 points 2 months ago

We used to had demo version of games, often made with care. Now we have 2h play on Steam while we can refund, instead.

Devs* learned to make first 2h nice and intense and to scream it's awesome and the wow effect, and everything later super bland and repetitive. Nice 2h long game may be worthy 8€. 2h long fun and 200h boring fuck is not worthy 80€ the devs request.

As devs I point some devs and often publishers who own dev studio and makes orders too.

I don't trust the bitches.

If I find whole game fun and worthy the price, can pay even 80€, can put it on the wishlist to buy on promo later, or in extreme cases, even buy few copies for friends includes pricy dlc. IF I find it worthy as whole.

[-] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 months ago

Good for you. You do you. I'll keep pirating all the games I can, and if they are from a respected developer (fuck you Ubisoft, EA, Blizzard, etc.) AND I like the game, then I'll certainly buy it.

[-] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago

We don't disagree. Our approach is just different. Neither of us are throwing much money at these companies.

Just the other day I've bought the FO4 GOTY edition for (checks email) C$13.37 (lol), which included all DLCs, and I thought it was a fair price for the quality of the game and content it provides. With the 30% cut that steam takes, I hope Bobby or Todd or whoever is in charge now is happy.

[-] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 months ago

I don't understand folks that pirate games. I don't think there's a particular service issue currently between all the platforms and sales

Capcom puts invasive DRM on all of their games now, and retroactively added it after people bought said games. All of the Borderlands games had spyware retroactively added over the past yeat spyware. And Ubisoft can't be trusted to not take away games from people who paid for them.

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[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago

What about games that are no longer being sold?

[-] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago

As in abandonware? Or delisted due to cultists? Either way, the answer is yes.

[-] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago

I'm a Linux user and the games I play are usually not supported, so troubleshooting time often exceeds the two hour return window. This is nearly a non-issue these days though.

[-] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago

I'm a Linux user as well (arch btw) and I just look at protondb and https://areweanticheatyet.com/ as a reference. If something comes up as less than stellar, I'll just skip purchasing it.

Longest I had to tinker with were Project Zomboid (due to ancient gfx before I bought a new one) and Jedi Fallen Order (just to fine tune for performance/fidelity, took about 15 minutes).

I understand if you regularly go for games that require a lot of tinkering you might need more time though, but the Steam return is 2hrs of played time, not 2hrs of owning the game.

[-] tawsi@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 months ago

This was me basically before I started to learn how to do shit properly.

Ie. when I was a teenager and learnt about pirating through low quality youtube vids

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