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[-] mienshao@lemmy.world 43 points 4 days ago

It’s not that I have any blind loyalty to Nintendo or anything like that. I don’t, and I’ve been pissed at many of their recent business decisions.

But the world is so unbelievably shit rn, and watching folks come out of the woodwork for the past few months to shit on Nintendo, call for boycotts, dunk on fans of Nintendo games has been a lot…

So like this? I love this news. So fucking much. I’ve been dealing with depression and family issues and potentially losing my job and my country going full fascist—so video games are one of my only brightspots. And people have made it so fucking negative to be a Nintendo fan. So I just love this middle finger to the haters. Not only were your boycotts a failure, the haters prolly gave Nintendo news-coverage and hype by bitching about it so much.

And what was Nintendo’s big sin anyway? For being a corporation in a capitalist system and maximizing profits, like each and every other for-profit corporation does? Nintendo has done nothing that Microsoft, Sony, Apple, etc. hasn’t also done. So it’s been so fucking frustrating seeing hate thrown to one of the few corporations that hasn’t been fully enshittified and still makes quality products.

Nintendo isn’t perfect. By any means. But they make great products, they aren’t doing straight up evil shit (like Google), and they primarily provide fun games for children. Of all corporations to target, Nintendo really doesn’t deserve the hate campaign.

Moral of the story: don’t yuck people’s yum. Anyways—rant over! Enjoy your Switches and Switch 2s, fellow gamers!

[-] missingno@fedia.io 27 points 4 days ago

The circlejerk has gotten incredibly tiring, especially here. Literally any mention of Nintendo in any context whatsoever has to bring a dozen people out of the woodwork to remind everyone that Nintendo is the most evil thing on the planet ever. You'd think !nintendo@lemmy.world would be a space with at least a little less negativity, but no, even here it never fucking ends. Even worse though is the amount of misinformation that gets spread in the process, people will twist anything they can to invent new things to be mad at.

There are certainly some things Nintendo does that I dislike. But I also look at the rest of the industry and I don't think they're anywhere near the worst right now. They treat their workers well, they don't push gambling-based business models on kids, they keep projects reasonably scoped instead of trying to make every single game into the next Fortnite and then shut it down when it doesn't meet that bar, their games actually feel complete at launch, and they don't fund genocide.

And they make a lot of good games that I like.

[-] slimerancher@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

Yeah, we try to keep the negativity low, but don't want to become a circle jerk community where nothing negative about Nintendo is allowed.

[-] missingno@fedia.io 8 points 4 days ago

I'm certainly not saying criticism shouldn't be allowed when it's relevant. When there's news about something bad, by all means discuss it in the relevant thread.

The problem I have is when it's everywhere, at any mention of anything related to Nintendo. Even in a thread like this, for example, we gotta have a whole bunch of drive-by "Hey did you know Nintendo bad? Just thought I'd remind everyone!" comments. It's tiring.

[-] slimerancher@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Yeah, I agree.

[-] TAG@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

Remember, you can always block the haters. They can talk about how they are still not buying a Nintendo system and you can have a constructive discussion with people who agree with you.

[-] slimerancher@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

You should share this with those people:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0la5DBtOVNI

[-] TAG@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago

The important quote from the article

What the launch sales of Switch 2 primarily tell us is that they made a lot of Switch 2 to sell at launch. Lifetime sales and launch sales of a console often do not correlate, meaning that some consoles with small launches ended up doing incredibly well lifetime (PS2 only sold 400k in its launch month) while others with big launches ended up not doing as well lifetime. Since launch month demand is rarely satiated by available supply (and it is certainly not a great sign when it is, historically) all we can really get a read on at launch is the confidence of the manufacturer to make so many units available, and the ability of the supply chain to get those units into the market.

This is still very positive news for the long term viability of the Switch 2 because having a solid install base means third parties have more incentive to port games to the system.

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

This is still very positive news for the long term viability of the Switch 2 because having a solid install base means third parties have more incentive to port games to the system.

If multiplatform games continue to be more expensive on Switch2 than on other systems, they'll probably not sell that well anyway. People usually buy Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games. 3rd parties need to earn their place.

Example Cyberpunk:

Switch2

PS5

PC/GOG

[-] slimerancher@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

That's a problem with most ports. It's a "new" game on Switch, and many years old game on other platforms.

Proper comparison will be for the games that are released together on Switch and other consoles.

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

That’s a problem with most ports. It’s a “new” game on Switch

There is no mandate by Nintendo that ports must cost 70 Euro, the 3rd parties simply follow the example set by Nintendo. They could sell it for 50 but chose not to.

People who have more than one gaming system have little reason to buy Switch versions of their games. Of the announced Switch 2 games, I already have MK World and looking forward to Metroid Prime 4. Everything else I'm looking forward to, I rather play on Steam Deck where deals are much better and I get stuff like cloud saves for free.

[-] slimerancher@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

No console competes with steam on pricing. I feel console vs PC is a different discussion then one console vs another. Of course both are gaming machine, and Steam Deck is closing the gap, but still, it's an open system vs a closed one.

You should try Donkey Kong Bananza, I am having a blast playing it, it's really fun. Of course, don't know what your games tastes are so can't say if you will like it or not, but it's worth taking a look at.

And you don't have to buy all games on Switch, I don't buy all games on Switch either, some games feel better on PS5, so I get them there, some I enjoy more on Switch so get it here. Play where you enjoy!

[-] slimerancher@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Yeah, the first is always supply constrained, not demand constrained. We will see how it goes in year 2 and 3.

[-] Rooki@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago

I have lost faith in humanity. When people just keep buying scams like these they are getting just rewarded for such predatory practices.

[-] thejml@sh.itjust.works 24 points 4 days ago

It’s almost like people can buy and enjoy whatever they want. If you want to buy a switch2, go ahead, if you don’t, that’s cool to. Gatekeeping has no place here. People are allowed to like what they like.

[-] Rooki@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

I mean yes but sadly this will definitly affect others too as nowadays with globalism other companies see this and say hey people really buy any sh*t if you do it like nintendo, even cashgrabs.

[-] slimerancher@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago

Nintendo has increased the prices for some of their games, but they are far less predatory than many companies with their live-services and micro-transactions.

[-] Rooki@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

I mean thats semi true they have less things that they sell you after a purchase of a licnese to a game. E.g. dlc's or similar. Still they can brick your system any second if they thought you inserted anything they dont like. Thats just a huge predatory step against any consumer rights.

[-] slimerancher@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Personally, I think DLCs are fine, well at least most of them, I was talking more about micro-transactions in free to play or even paid games by many other publishers. They are specifically designed to be predatory in nature, bus that's a whole other discussion.

As for bricking consoles, all platforms have included that bit in their EULA for over a decade, and they do ban you if they detect you playing pirated stuff, the only difference is (from what I remember reading) that optical disks don't have separate id, but each cartridge has, so it's easier to detect if multiple people are playing the same copy with cartridge then optical drive.

I am not saying they should be allowed that, I am in support of customers allowed to do whatever they want with the hardware they bought (though I am also against piracy, especially for entertainment purposes), but this doesn't make them "more" predatory than their competitors. There are things Sony or MS does that Nintendo doesn't, and there are things Nintendo does that Sony or MS doesn't. All of them, like pretty much any company, do what they think will make them most money.

I forget the point I was making, but it's somewhere there 😀

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 4 days ago

Nintendo really doesn't deserve your money, guys.

[-] SunshineJogger@feddit.org 3 points 4 days ago

Who does tho?

What is your mega corporation of choice then? Sony or Microsoft are no better or worse. Nvidia perhaps? We are walking wallets to all of them

[-] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Valve is my choice (steam deck)

Also feels like Nintendo deserve it even less because of the recent news about ability for disabling devices (even tho the others can do the same, they dont for the same reasons).

[-] Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social 5 points 4 days ago

Well I'm certain they feel vindicated raising their prices. I'm sure the rest of the Industry will soon follow suit.

[-] demizerone@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

I'm waiting for OLED. Once you go oled there is no going back.

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