Heartbreaking: The Worst Person You Know Just Made A Great Point
Ugh.
Listen to Marjorie Taylor Greene talk, and she's easily the worst of the worst. But sometimes she does something like this or speaks out against Trump, and in that respect she may actually be one of the better Republicans, which is an extremely, extremely low bar to clear.
I wonder if there were bad hidden things in the bill again? (I know most of the US congress is bought by AIPAC)
Like in the US, a bill often gets to congress that is named something like "the children are the future protections act" that provides free meals and better education for kids or something universally good, and then clause 7.1.2.5 says "all people of color are stripped of all rights and Lockheed Martin gets an extra 200 billion per year and a on-demand hit squad provided by the CIA and is immune to prosecution, and the police have the right to spy on every citizen and steal their wallets without a warrant."
Because the majority of members of US congress have admitted to not actually reading the bills.
There was nothing bad in the amendement itself.
This was not a vote on the whole bill. It was a vote to change a part of the bill and strip out funding for some free weapons to Israel. It was voted on seperately.
So basically it was free real estate
Is this the confirmation that AOC is compromised?
Yes this is a very strong admission from AOC that she has not changed her stance and is still lockstep on genocide with the establishment when needed.
This is probably the best take on it https://xcancel.com/zei_squirrel/status/1946356344765968642
It could also just be that it's MTG's bill and she's introducing it because she's explicitly antisemitic. It's like if a well-known white supremacist introduced articles of impeachment for Clarence Thomas because they can't stand having a black man on the court. Maybe if this is the one shot that can get it done you bite the bullet and do it because the result is worthwhile even if you're going to get asked why you teamed up with the white supremacist, but for a doomed bill that's only going to be a statement of principles, the benefit is limited and the person who introduced it is part of the statement.
So she's a Republican?
I don't know what point you're trying to make here.
If the personality of the person intruducing an amendement matters then AOC would never vote with any Republican, right?
MTG's problematic aspect isn't her being a Republican. It's not even that she's a particularly bad person (she is). The perceived motivation for this messaging bill is antisemitism. This is Jewish space lasers lady.
So? Her bill is about cutting off money for weapons to Israel not Jewish space lasers.
4 real progressives voted yes.
I suppose you could pretend that context and pretext simply don't exist. Poll taxes were just about raising money and English only laws are about government standardization.
I'm also not of the opinion that the people voting for it made a heinous choice either. They were just willing to take questions about MTG's antisemitism in exchange for a minor messaging vote. Nothing anyone did here is important. AOC has put out statements much more critical of Israel than being vote 7 on a muddled messaging bill.
AOC is voting to send weapons to a genocide here. You deem that optically worse than voting for an amendement against it because the person who filed the amendement is antisemitic?
I don't think so. It was a modification to this Biden bill to remove the Israel money.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/8034
I can't believe I'm agreeing with something MTG put forth.
If you are agreeing, you are part of the problem. This was essentially a bill to defund the police by taking body cameras away.
Funny, that's not the reason AOC have for not voting for it.
What I was agreeing with was the idea of defending Israel, not whatever was in the bill.
Pretty sure her tweet said that. Taking away iron dome missile and still giving them offensive weapons doesn't help anyone.
I didn't read her tweet just saw video of her saying that the bill DID NOT reduce weapons payments for Israel. But I do admit that, as is often the case, the video I saw was just a snippet and not her full statement.
600+ days into livestreamed extermination and mass starvation in Gaza and these wretched people say they care.
AOC is career politician (insert add for term limits here) and as such she is tries to walk the middle line, carefully selecting her words and never goes far enough on her stance on certain issues that might get her in trouble, like her meandering support about Gaza and Israel. She is not the progressive darling we need, just the best the DNC has, and at times, that isn't saying much. We need a viable working class, progressive party that isn't afraid to fight.
She is an outspoken surrogate for President Biden, a figure many fellow socialists have condemned as a warmonger. She has also carefully calibrated her messaging around the war in Gaza, declining to take some positions that have inflamed Jewish Americans.
Ocasio-Cortez Loses the Democratic Socialists’ Endorsement Over Israel
Update: AOC clarifies she supports genocide and it is not about MTG
What she actually said, for anyone who cares:
Marjorie Taylor Greene's amendment does nothing to cut off offensive aid to Israel nor end the flow of US munitions being used in Gaza. Of course I voted against it. What it does do is cut off defensive Iron Dome capacities while allowing the actual bombs killing Palestinians to continue.
I have long stated that I do not believe that adding to the death count of innocent victims to this war is constructive to its end. That is a simple and clear difference of opinion that has long been established.
I remain focused on cutting the flow of US munitions that are being used to perpetuate the genocide in Gaza.
For the record, I think this is a shitty explanation. The Iron Dome permits Israel to commit it's genocide with impunity and act as a belligerent in the region. I get the attempt to differentiate between defensive support and offensive support, but cutting of arms for the Iron Dome would be the fastest way to curb Israeli aggression. But this statement in no way, "clarifies that she supports genocide."
Well that is certainly one interpretation of her words. Maybe not the one closest to the truth but definitely one way of thinking lol.
No it's the only interpretation.
This looks like a bad-faith AOC attack piece. I'm sure she's not perfect. I'm also sure that she's a better, more ethical politician than most in the USA (which isn't saying much, you guys have awful politicians).
One might wonder why you choose to post this, instead of focusing on the way, way, way worse things also going on over there.
Quite telling.
One might wonder why you choose to post this, instead of focusing on the way, way, way worse things also going on over there.
Because it's the truth. Because having a full picture of the situation is important for informed decision making. Because ignoring any news that makes 'your side' look bad is what magas do.
AOC clarified she supports sending weapons to Israel and this was not a mistake. https://lemmy.ml/post/33383345
The post title is BS, but the content is worthwhile, lol. Singling out just one person? Come on now, don't be a doofus.
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