Me reading this with a gold nose ring 😅

If you tell that that's a hippie beard in my local metal bar... You might be politely corrected because we are awesome.

Also, punks and metalheads get beards and rings too.

These guys are the ones who went to burning man when they were young and it was cool, but kept going, got old, and ruined it for the next generations.

Makes me sad as a member of the Oregon Gen who missed the heydays of that kind of stuff, but read all about it as it was in its prime.

This is the advantage of decentralization over federation. IMHO the fact that Lemmy is only federated really hurts it. Not so much for user accounts (in theory these can be backed up restored and moved. Not ideal but not awful) but in that communities are tied to servers. When the server a community is on goes away it is hugely damaging to that community.

don't you avoid taxes anyway if you're not profitable?

The word you’re looking for is douchebag

Techbro

He looks like he’s turning into Mel Gibson.

Techno King Asshole. TKA for short.

the “i dress myself and everyone around me is too afraid to tell me it looks like shit”?

Nostr really isn't about the platform, it's about the simple, platform-agnostic keypair setup that identifies you.

There was Secure Scuttblebutt, but it had issues that hindered adoption.

Nostr does actually seem like a more usable version of it, but the only people I've ever seen use it are cryptobros, so it's got a kind of anti-network effect.

Edit: Honestly a "SSB2" running over something like Veilid could be real nice, but it's still early days.

He doesn't like it because it's the same as twitter according to him.

Journalists don't like it because they get called out on bullshit there.

jack hates trans ppl and trans ppl made bluesky what it is.

It's so "decentralized" that political activists from authoritarian countries get deplatformed on request of the government.

I think the main one is that Nostr is supposed to be really simple, and derive some security/privacy from that simplicity. Whereas ATProto and ActivityPub store and forward content so that each rely has a copy, on Nostr nodes the messages are all ephemeral. So it has something of a following with crypto bros and privacy enthusiasts. With nostr IDs are also based on public/private keys unlike ATProto/ActivityPub that use a username@instancename scheme, so signing and identifying content that belongs to a user is easier and more guaranteed to be correct, and your username isn't tied to any specific server "instance"

That's more complicated than a short comment can summarize

LLM answer ok?

Nostr, ActivityPub, and the AT Protocol (used by Bluesky) are all decentralized social media protocols, but they differ significantly in their architecture, approach to data storage, and user experience. Nostr focuses on user-led social media with a simple, flexible protocol centered around relays, while ActivityPub powers the Fediverse with federated instances and a more complex structure. The AT Protocol, used by Bluesky, prioritizes account portability and a more structured data model. [1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8]
Here's a more detailed breakdown:

1. Nostr:

• Focus: User-led social media with a focus on decentralization, user control, and censorship resistance. [1, 2]
• Architecture: Relays (servers) handle communication and data relaying. Users connect to multiple relays, and there are no instances in the traditional sense. [9, 10]
• Data Storage: Data is stored across multiple relays, and users can choose which relays to interact with. [9, 10]
• User Experience: Emphasizes simplicity, flexibility, and user autonomy in content and moderation. [2]
• Strengths: Decentralized, censorship-resistant, and adaptable to various use cases. [2, 10]
• Weaknesses: Smaller network compared to ActivityPub and AT Protocol. [7, 10]

2. ActivityPub:

• Focus: Federated social networking, enabling communication between different instances (servers). [1, 1, 11, 11]
• Architecture: Relies on a network of independently run servers (instances) that federate (exchange data) with each other. [1, 1, 11, 11]
• Data Storage: Each instance stores its own data. [3, 3]
• User Experience: Mimics traditional social media platforms with features like following, liking, and commenting. [11, 11, 12, 12]
• Strengths: Established ecosystem with a large number of users and diverse applications (Mastodon, PeerTube, etc.). [1, 1, 13, 13]
• Weaknesses: Can be more complex than Nostr due to the federated structure, and moderation can vary between instances. [2, 2, 3, 3, 14]

3. AT Protocol (Bluesky):

• Focus: Account portability and a structured data model. [3, 3, 4, 4, 15]
• Architecture: Uses a layered approach with a data layer (hosted by Bluesky) and a protocol for interacting with that data. [3, 3, 4, 4]
• Data Storage: User data is stored in signed data repositories. [4, 4]
• User Experience: Designed for a more modern and potentially smoother user experience. [3, 3, 4, 4, 16]
• Strengths: Prioritizes account portability and aims for a better user experience. [3, 3, 6, 6]
• Weaknesses: Currently relies on Bluesky for its data layer, raising concerns about centralization. [3, 3]

In essence:

ActivityPub

is a mature protocol powering a vast network of federated servers with a wide range of applications.

Nostr

is a simpler, more user-centric protocol focused on decentralization and user control.

AT Protocol

prioritizes account portability and a modern user experience, but is currently more centralized due to its data layer dependence. [2, 3, 3, 5, 6, 6, 7, 17]

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