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[-] pachrist@lemmy.world 74 points 5 days ago

Democrats are more scared of the left than Nazis.

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago

Glances at Eric Adams

Some of those that work forces...

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[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 14 points 4 days ago

As (neo)liberals, they stand to lose a lot if real leftists were ever in control.

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[-] udon@lemmy.world 35 points 4 days ago

Nice, I think this is the most honest confirmation that Mamdani is in fact the best candidate.

[-] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 58 points 5 days ago

I love how this asshole talks about "cannibalizing support" when he's openly against the officially recognized Democratic nominee for mayor.

What a fucking joke. I hope to fuck he gets primaried too. We need to stop letting these corpo democrats suck up all the oxygen in the room.

[-] vxx@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

How did he manage to stay relevant after his approval rating dropped to 27% in 2009?

[-] Fades@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Because democrat leadership is powerhungry controlled opposition. Same reason they didn't release the Epstein files either.

in case you forgot: https://www.salon.com/2019/06/19/joe-biden-to-rich-donors-nothing-would-fundamentally-change-if-hes-elected/

[-] the_trash_man@lemmy.world 30 points 4 days ago

They're really gonna fuck him like Sanders huh

[-] nthavoc@lemmy.today 33 points 4 days ago
[-] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

If they don't respect the candidate elected in the primaries, then the party has to go. I ain't voting blue no matter who any more. I fell for that these last 3 elections and look how far that took us.

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[-] kinsnik@lemmy.world 249 points 6 days ago

"Democrats will be doing a disservice [...] if they don't come together and decide to support whichever candidate has the most support among them"...

what do you think a primary election is? it is literally seeing who has the most support among democrats. so this guy is the one who is doing the disservice of not deciding to support Zohran

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 150 points 6 days ago

Yeah but the people don't know who they want. The DNC knows who the people want. This is why I nominate Hillary Clinton as NYC mayor.

[-] kinsnik@lemmy.world 67 points 6 days ago

yeah, let's stop "cannibalizing each other's support" by attacking the nominee and giving support to others. very sound strategy, mr paterson.

sheessh. can't he SEE that the democrats need new blood

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 70 points 6 days ago

Democrats and Republicans work for the same billionaires. You are about to witness Democrats working against Mamdani like they never have against Republicans.

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[-] chocrates@piefed.world 50 points 5 days ago

They are gonna hand the election to the GOP because they refuse to fucking retire and let a new generation make decisions.

The DNC is just as culpable for both Trump terms as the GOP voters imo.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 32 points 5 days ago

The DNC already handed the election to Trump. And now that a leftist gets any momentum the DNC are still doing everyhing in their power to prevent leftists from winning.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

And they're flubbing it so hard, which is half the joke of all this.

Cuomo was a shoe-in, according to the polls, two months before the election. The dude was going to walk into Gracie Mansion without breaking a sweat. Then Mamdani - a virtual unknown State Senator out of Astoria - gets a bit of traction with his campaign platform and a ton of hate from the Zionist national media. Suddenly, this dark horse candidate is on everyone's TV screens. He's the center of the national fight over the Gaza genocide. And he's getting up on the TV to say things like "Buses should be free at point of use" and "Maybe we could get grocery store prices down if we ran them like the Post Office", which are the crazy left-wing ideas that nobody else is suggesting.

He's glad-handing Brad Lander after the man is bullied by ICE. He's talking about housing reform in one of the most expensive places to live in the country. He's getting car bomb threats from a guy who doesn't know he takes the subway to work. All the worst people you know hate him.

Wins by 12 points. Obama didn't have it this good.

[-] immutable@lemmy.zip 29 points 5 days ago

It’s not really a generational thing.

The DNC has been bought by the donor class. They operate under the (not insane) belief that they need huge sums of money to win elections.

Mamdani makes the donors unhappy, it’s as simple as that.

Mamdani is around the same age Pete Buttigieg was when he started getting into the national spotlight. Buttigieg doesn’t threaten the donor class, so full support. Fun memes and tweets about him going on Fox News and making a host look like a fool.

You see any popular candidate get crapped on by the DNC, go read what the candidate wants to do and ask yourself a simple question “does this threaten the wealth of the donor class?” If the answer is yes you are guaranteed that the DNC establishment are going to be fighting that candidate.

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[-] RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago

The "lesser-evil" party. The lesser part maybe true but so is the evil part.

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 9 points 4 days ago

The lesser part maybe true but so is the evil part.

Always has been, otherwise it wouldn't be called the "lesser-evil" party, it'd be called the "good" party.

We've known for decades (and I do mean everyone by 'we', I'm not even American) that the democrats are also corporate bootlickers. It's just that their policies tend to be less anti-human generally. For a while, it was clear: Vote dem, get some consumer protections and slow improvements in healthcare, LGBT rights, etc. Vote republican, get every good thing repealed and new anti-consumer, anti-lgbt, anti-healthcare legislation introduced. Now the dems want to cater to the right for votes and the "lesser" part of "lesser evil" is starting to diminish. They're still the lesser evil, but they're also more in the way of true progress than ever.

[-] Fades@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago

Democratic leadership is controlled opposition, there's no other way to say it

[-] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 16 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Even Jon Stewart said it this past Monday.

[-] ceenote@lemmy.world 164 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Mamdani: It's about the policies

Democrats: Gee whiz, you ran such a good campaign

Voters: It's about the policies

Democrats: Gosh, if only centrists could find such a charismatic guy.

They think everyone but them is so stupid. It's infuriating that the system is set up so we're forced to work with these twats.

We found that charismatic centrist they're looking for. His name is Barack Obama, and we're still dealing with the fallout of him campaigning on "change" and failing to deliver.

[-] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 85 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Because of Obama I had health insurance. Because of Obama I was not in medical bankruptcy.

But then again that was almost 10 YEARS AGO. Blaming a black American man for White Backlash is so American it hurts.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 50 points 6 days ago

Because of Obama the banks got bailed out.

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[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 26 points 4 days ago

Just like the Republican factions in The Spanish Civil War attacking each other for having the wrong ideology while the Fascists tightened their grip.

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[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 43 points 5 days ago

So "blue no matter who" and "the time for debate is during the primary" is only meant to benefit corporatist, war-hawk candidates?? I'm shocked, I tells ya.

[-] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 34 points 5 days ago

This whole situation has been the final straw for me and my support of the Democratic party. I used to think they were just incompetent and disorganized but this has shown that they are perfectly willing to openly sell our country to fascists to keep someone who is actually going to make a change for the positive out. I have never seen the democratic party unify so solidly behind anything other than hating on this guy.

[-] smol_beans@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago

They also unified around hating bernie and let trump win

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago

The Hillarycrats Ride Again!

[-] Steve@startrek.website 22 points 4 days ago

Its clear that Democrats are now the center (maybe center-right) party and there is no mainstream liberal party in the US

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[-] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 39 points 5 days ago

I don't understand.

Mamdani is bad for New York because of what Trump has done?

While simultaneously using Trumpspeak?

Unity will allow the democrats to prevail?

A glob of unified uselessness is just as useless

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 23 points 5 days ago

Nooo you can't do economic populism to win an election you're support to run solely on identity politics and protect the billionaire class! - Democrats.

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[-] Ougie@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago

Maybe finally people will start getting it in their heads that the current Democratic party - aside from the obvious outliers, Bernie, AOC, Warren etc - is not acting in their best interests...

[-] Alaik@lemmy.zip 27 points 5 days ago

I really don't understand why Warren keeps being put in the company of Bernie or AOC.

Bernie and AOC are leftists (center left), and Warren is firmly center right at best.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago

I really don’t understand why Warren keeps being put in the company of Bernie or AOC.

For the same reason Corporate Dems kept screaming "Biden is the most progressive candidate since FDR!" at any left-liberal who would give them the time of day. She's not a serious politician. She's a fence post. This is how far the party is allowed to go and absolutely no further.

You put Warren in with Bernie and AOC today. Then, when we get another Hillary or a Buttigieg or whatever on the ticket in 2028, you can tell progressives "See? Warren is being reasonable and joining with the very popular center of the party. They have progressive cred. Idk wtf Bernie and AOC are on anymore. They've clearly gone off the deep end. Besides, Bernie is a misogynist and I think I heard AOC is part Chinese. And don't even think about voting for the Green Party. They're all a bunch of KGB-infiltrated Russians."

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[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 48 points 5 days ago

Welp, at this point anyone calling the us any form of democracy has to put the clown makeup on thick first.

You have a two party system with one party having no access to anyone not on a list of approved individuals vs the other party having a glorious leader and no access to anyone unless approved. The real sad part is only one of those two cares about holding power, so you have a nation of fascists (remember they did win that election) and a bunch of people who can claim some sort of moral high ground.

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[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 28 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I'm actively telling dem politicians to remove me from their stupid fundraising lists over this. Hell if a dem has offered anything but open support for Mamdani I will not even entertain the possibility of donating.

[-] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 76 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

We cannot aford ideas without a plan for implementation or funding.

From Zohran's site:

Taxes on big corporations and the wealthiest New Yorkers

Zohran has a plan to bring down the cost-of-living through city-owned grocery stores, universal childcare, and other bold proposals, and he knows exactly how to pay for it, too. Zohran’s revenue plan will raise the corporate tax rate to match New Jersey’s 11.5%, bringing in $5 billion. And he will tax the wealthiest 1% of New Yorkers—those earning above $1 million annually—a flat 2% tax (right now city income tax rates are essentially the same whether you make $50,000 or $50 million). Zohran will also implement common-sense procurement reform, end senseless no-bid contracts, hire more tax auditors, and crack down on fine collection from corrupt landlords to raise an additional $1 billion.

[-] lividweasel@lemmy.world 55 points 6 days ago

There’s some unspoken words there:

We cannot aford ideas without a plan for implementation or funding.

“…that must not impact our wealthy donors.”

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[-] TommySoda@lemmy.world 64 points 6 days ago

They've spent more time and effort going after Mamdani than they did trying to stop the "Big Beautiful Bill."

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[-] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 49 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Are recalls a thing there? Because that Paterson guy needs to be recalled.

Edit: He’s not even governor. He served a partial term in 15 years ago and wasn’t even elected. This is madness.

[-] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago

By this guys logic shouldn’t he be supporting the winner of the primary and admonishing those who say they will vote 3rd party instead of the other way around?

[-] Subdivide6857@midwest.social 39 points 6 days ago

Fuuuuuck the Democrats. The other right wingers.

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