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[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 214 points 4 weeks ago

I've been saying since 2016 that Sanders' executive orders alone would have moved the US further in the right direction than any president since LBJ.

The last six months of Donald Trump have proven that. The presidency has all the power any party needs if they actually want to do real good.

[-] Turret3857@infosec.pub 147 points 4 weeks ago

I think its hilarious how before Trumps 2nd term, the libshits would argue "but if they use executive orders to push through {legalization of abortion, marijuana, socialized healthcare, public transit, any number of good left leaning policies} the R's will do it back when theyre back in office!!

Now look where we are.

fucking libshits and MAGAts.

[-] match@pawb.social 28 points 4 weeks ago

we had better damn well put in a president who's gonna EO everything to the far left

[-] Godric@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, elder statesmen like Biden still believed in things like exercising power responsibly within the balance of power like many presidents before them.

That wasn't good enough, too many people took the "lesser evil" quote to heart. So now we have a dipshit writing EOs faster than the court system moves, and I hope there's a god to help the country get out of this.

[-] dickalan@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Stop huffing your own farts

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 7 points 4 weeks ago

That’s still completely true. Not only that, Congress and SCOTUS can nullify any executive order.

[-] Turret3857@infosec.pub 19 points 4 weeks ago

haha, yes they sure can. And they have! Look at how well its going!

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

There are only "checks and balances" when all 3 branches of government are not fascist/corrupt.

[-] fox2263@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Let’s not forget they’ve spent the past 4-8 years putting their people into the right places to allow them to start doing whatever they want.

[-] Turret3857@infosec.pub 5 points 3 weeks ago

You say this as if the dems could have never done what they did.

[-] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

They have the house, senate, the courts and are all yes man followers.

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[-] cogitase@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 4 weeks ago

Sanders’ EOs with a conservative Supreme Court would have been unilaterally nullified. The conservative supermajority is what has allowed Trump to get away with the vast majority of this.

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 63 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Sanders’ EOs with a conservative Supreme Court would have been unilaterally nullified.

If they'd run Sanders, they've had ended up with a Democratic supermajority. SCOTUS would have been largely irrelevant.

But it doesn't change facts. The powers of the presidency in the hands of an actual reformer, not a performative one like Biden or Obama, would have entailed true, fundamental change.

[-] RedFrank24@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Sanders couldn't even win the Democratic primary. What makes you think he stood a chance at winning the election?

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

Good morning.

Respectfully, what you're repeating here is a lie. The primaries were rigged against Bernard Sanders, and when the Democratic Party was later sued for it, they admitted it. The bummer here is that in rigging primaries for Clinton, Democrats not only gave us Donald Trump, but also gave Trump control of Congress at the same time.

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[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago

Any good candidate would lose the democratic primary.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 18 points 4 weeks ago

That’s wholly incorrect. The only reason Trump’s executive orders have any power is due to the full majority support of the Republican-controlled Congress and the conservative SCOTUS.

Democrats forced a 15-day vote on the constitutionality of Trump’s initial purse-control power grab. The Republican majority redefined the entire congressional calendar as a single day, just to a valid holding the vote.

This amount of control comes from the abject loyalty of all three branches.

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[-] sad_detective_man@leminal.space 74 points 4 weeks ago

sorry LEFTISTS, I will let fascists fuck us all dead before I steer progress away from anything that isn't Obama-nostalgic capitalism. oh and I'm pretty sure I heard that commie say something about term limits so I'm going to make that all of yous' problem just for even considering it.

[-] CorruptCheesecake@lemmy.world 64 points 3 weeks ago

Jeb! is willing to overlook this transgression

[-] Godric@lemmy.world 29 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Sorry, it's spelled JEB!

Your lack of enthusiasm has been logged. Please clap.

[-] ignotum@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

1! = 1
2! = 2
3! = 6
4! = 24
...
JEB! = +∞

[-] nuko147@lemmy.world 40 points 3 weeks ago

Sorry but voters don't get a say in USA. They only can choose between the 2 that their bosses have chosen.

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 36 points 3 weeks ago

Imagine relentlessly defending attempts to appeal to red states and conservatives as a viable electoral strategy, and then refer to Sanders support on this map as 'empty land'.

[-] jwmgregory@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 3 weeks ago

every comment in this thread along the lines of

“wElL yOu sHoUldVE vOtEd tHeN!!!1!”

fucking confounds me bc ig you guys either have a weird victim blaming kink or you have massively more faith in our electoral system’s veracity than i do.

[-] _stranger_@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

Be a lot easier to discuss how well things worked if everyone participated.

[-] jwmgregory@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 3 weeks ago

i honestly am skeptical of western media’s narrative that everyone is complacent and doesn’t give a fuck. i’ve met a lot of people. every single one of them gives some sort of a shit about politics. it feels like homegrown astroturfing to keep anything from ever actually coming to a head. keep people feeling alone and isolated, hopeless. if 60-80% of americans are complacent, don’t participate civically, and are actively disengaged from the political process… then where are these people? i should be seeing them in droves right? but i’m not, and neither is anyone i know. my network isn’t really geographically limited either. anecdotal evidence regardless, sure, but still suss imo.

i’ve seen the statistics and polls, the election results and non-participant ratio, you don’t need to share those sources with me.

idk, maybe i’m fucking crazy and a conspiracy theorist. a wise man once said that there are lies, damn lies, and statistics.

[-] papertowels@mander.xyz 5 points 3 weeks ago

Perhaps those that care about politics are the ones with which politics gets discussed? Unless you're sitting down and going "so that trump, huh?" With every person you meet.

[-] jwmgregory@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

i do admit the bias of my sampling, but also at the same time:

Unless you're sitting down and going "so that trump, huh?" With every person you meet.

yeah… i mean i do end up doing this much of the time? my time and labor is valuable… i’d rather not waste it on working with fascists, but i recognize i have the privilege of making that choice due to the kind of work i do.

if you lived during the reich would you not be like “so how ‘bout that hitler?” to every person you met??? i would?????????

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[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 weeks ago

Libs want to feel like they're "right" even while they don't do shit but support fascism.

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[-] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 35 points 3 weeks ago

People should have voted in primaries, then. I did. Both times. Clearly not enough did.

[-] GongFuFlashSteep@slrpnk.net 4 points 3 weeks ago

Elizabeth Warren should have dropped out before Super Tuesday

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[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Why would the dems even want to win, when their co-workers are doing a much better job of passing the fascist policies that they all agree on? Why settle for kamalacaust when trump will go even further?

[-] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 3 weeks ago

Death to the DNC never forget

[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

why wouldn't they? Bernie's interests are aligned completely opposite to the interests of whatever groups that keep at least half of those democrats in their seats. That became much more clear when they happily voted no to Bernie's "ban weapon sale to Israel" motions.

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

Good question.

If Democrats were reasonable, objective people (which they are not), they'd probably look at the fact that the state of Missouri passed a $15 minimum wage, required paid sick leave, AND legalized abortion in the same election where they elected Republicans.

And then take that as a lesson of maybe what they should be doing in order to win back red states.

But they won't.

They're in the pocket of the rich and couldn't care less about people who work for a living.

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[-] RazgrizOne@piefed.zip 11 points 3 weeks ago

But Biden won lol the 2016 election is a way better example. Sanders did worse in 2019

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[-] paranoia@feddit.dk 6 points 3 weeks ago

As a non American I don't see why the democratic party should have chosen a guy who deliberately chose to spend his entire career outside the democratic party.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 18 points 3 weeks ago

Because their would be constituents wanted him.

[-] paranoia@feddit.dk 5 points 3 weeks ago

Great, then mirror some of his policies. However were I a democratic politician, I simply would not reward a politician who has been outside the party structure for decades with endorsement for presidency. For me it would effectively be like skipping the queue.

[-] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 weeks ago

For me it would effectively be like skipping the queue.

It's not about whose turn it is. Arguably, that's how we got Hillary Clinton in 2016, which was the failure that gave Trump a political career.

What it is about is representing your party members. And your party members supported Bernie Sanders.

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[-] Godric@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago
[-] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Fucking Texas lmaoooo, O'Rourke??? Hahahahahaha

[-] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 3 points 3 weeks ago

There's only two fascist parties. One is slightly less fascist, that's it.

No matter what you do, you will be pigeonholed into making the wrong choice.

It is not your fault.

[-] Fredthefishlord 5 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah I'm gonna just let the actively 10x as fascist party win because the other is a bad capitalist instead of actually doing anything

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